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re: Why can't Auburn make it back to the NCG?
Posted on 6/1/14 at 2:30 am to MrAUTigers
Posted on 6/1/14 at 2:30 am to MrAUTigers
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He also ignored 2013. Those years just didn't fit his agenda.
My point is that Gus offenses can be stopped. 2011 is a great example of this. Aubs were trying to argue that his schemes are unstoppable, so I was simply pointing out that is not the case.
Gus is a great offensive mind, but his offenses can be beaten. Saban is a great defensive mind. His defenses can be beaten. See how that works?
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 2:37 am to chattabama
Well no shite, their 11 team lost a lot compared to 10.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 10:01 am to RiverCityDreams
Because they are nothing but THUGS!!
Posted on 6/1/14 at 10:05 am to chattabama
Of course his offense can be stopped. Especially with an entirely new OL and that shitshow of QBs we trotted out there in 2011. Not to even mention the restraints out on him by Chizik.
I assume Saban's defense isn't so effective with no talent either.
I assume Saban's defense isn't so effective with no talent either.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:13 pm to RiverCityDreams
Well, they should be very good and challenging again. It could be possible if they have a star replacement for Tre Mason. But that dude got 300+ yards in the SECCG. He ran for 660+ yards in their three biggest games at the end of the season (Bama, Mizzou and FSU)and had 7 TDs combined to go with all the yards. He was the perfect RB for that system. And he actually had a higher YPC average in 2012 and over 1000 rushing in Chizik's offense (on a terrible team) - so he was a great player and not just a great system player. The dude had great endurance which was perfect for what Auburn does.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:20 pm to chattabama
quote:Yea, when they don't have much talent, or are replacing 7 starters...or in this case, both.
My point is that Gus offenses can be stopped. 2011 is a great example of this.
Clint Moseley and Barrett Trotter had to replace Cam Newton. Auburn also had to replace 4 starting offensive linemen (Lee Ziemba, Ryan Pugh, Byron Isom, and Mike Berry), Darvin Adams, Terrell Zachery, and Eric Smith. Did I mention that AJ Greene and John Sullen were two of the guys replacing offensive linemen? They sucked.
The scheme is what lead Auburn to winning 8 games. Without Gus Malzahn's offense, I don't want to even think of the offensive production.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:26 pm to TTsTowel
Yep. We probably win 5 games in 2011 with just about any other OC. We lost almost our entire Oline, Cam, our best receiver and our hback. Gus's schemes were about all we had going for us that year.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 2:58 pm to chattabama
quote:So, how about taking a look at your BCS Championship season of 2009 and tell me which offense you faced was more successful against you. Should be easy to find another opponent with more yards and more offensive points, since Malzahn's attack was shut down so effectively by a defense that all Tidesters agree was well below the standards of the 2011-2012 squads.
300+ yards? Impressive. 21 points? Not amazing
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 3:00 pm
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:44 pm to Tiger n Miami AU83
Amazing how bad Chizik really was. Gus saved his arse from winning 5 with the defending champs..
Posted on 6/1/14 at 3:59 pm to JuiceTerry
Bama fans, don't act like your team didn't get lucky a couple of times. How about all those teams that lost that really shouldn't have that got your team into the championship. That is just as lucky if not more lucky that a tipped pass.
At least the Auburn player did something to win the game. If those teams don't choke then you guys have maybe 1 instead of three championships over the Saban era.
At least the Auburn player did something to win the game. If those teams don't choke then you guys have maybe 1 instead of three championships over the Saban era.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 4:13 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:True.
Amazing how bad Chizik really was. Gus saved his arse from winning 5 with the defending champs..
We were closer to going 4-8 in 2011 than we were to going 8-4 last year.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 4:36 pm to RiverCityDreams
Of course they CAN make it back but are not very likely to.
Even if you're the best team in the country it's difficult to make the championship game. The odds are always more likely you won't than you will.
The SEC is basically assured of a playoff spot. If Auburn manages to win the SEC (tall order) they'll make the playoffs, but now you have to win a game against a top 4 opponent to make the NCG, which makes it that much harder.
Even if you're the best team in the country it's difficult to make the championship game. The odds are always more likely you won't than you will.
The SEC is basically assured of a playoff spot. If Auburn manages to win the SEC (tall order) they'll make the playoffs, but now you have to win a game against a top 4 opponent to make the NCG, which makes it that much harder.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 4:39 pm to KYbamaboy
Posted on 6/1/14 at 5:35 pm to RiverCityDreams
Ironic. Bama didn't need anyone to lose a championship game to back in. They also won.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 5:37 pm to JuiceTerry
quote:No, they just needed Oklahoma State to lose against Iowa State, IIRC.
Bama didn't need anyone to lose a championship game to back in.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 5:51 pm to RiverCityDreams
Auburn won't make it back because of how difficult it is to repeat and with the playoffs being new. If they do make the playoffs they'll have to play a new defense they've never seen before just like they did with FSU. LSU and Georgia stand the best chances of making it in my opinion. I would love if they played eachother in it.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 5:53 pm to TTsTowel
Last game of the year before the bowls are set. Sorry, but that's the ultimate back-in. Dude's post was stupid.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 6:10 pm to JuiceTerry
All I'm saying is luck seems to part of a championship...usually. Sometimes a team is so dominant that they can just beat their opponents clearly and plainly. If anyone thinks that Auburn (some of the luckiest sons of bitches) can't make it back to the championship, then they are stupid. With that offensive power and question marks on a lot of the SEC's defenses this season...I see them having as good of a shot as anyone in the country.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 6:18 pm to RiverCityDreams
AU makes the playoff, AU wins it IMO.
Posted on 6/2/14 at 12:11 pm to chattabama
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Yeah. Malzahn has figured out the one style of offense that can never be stopped no matter how much time is given. NFL teams couldn't stop that offense ( for the purpose of this post let's just ignore the LSU game. Thanks)
Yeah, considering LSU held us to 437 yards, I guess that would be considered as "stopping" Gus' offense given the numbers we put up on everybody else.
Good argument.
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