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re: Why can't Auburn make it back to the NCG?
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:58 am to chattabama
Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:58 am to chattabama
quote:My point is that its more about execution than figuring it out like all the ones claiming they are going to shut Gus down by figuring him out. Just knowing the offense and all it does isn't going to stop it. To stop it you have to have the right players and they have to know what to do in each of the options and do it at a fast pace.
Look at history. The wishbone wasn't stopped in one season either.
quote:No. But I also know that Gus's offense is different based on the team he has. This year will likely be a little different than last year and the next year will likely be quite a bit different with a Johnson or White at QB. So its not like a certain defense is going to shut him down.
Again, do you believe that Malzahn has discovered some holy grail in offense that can never be stopped by opposing teams?
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 1:23 am
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Posted on 6/1/14 at 12:59 am to MrAUTigers
Congrats on racking up yards when LSU had already mailed it in 
Why won't any Aubs answer my question?
Why won't any Aubs answer my question?
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:02 am to chattabama
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Congrats on racking up yards when LSU had already mailed it in
....but, but, but your whole argument was LSU stopped the O. LSU didn't stop shite. Our D played poorly in the first half. Two early turnovers got us down 14 points. LSU didn't let up for shite. Auburn just regrouped at the half and started playing better. Period!
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 1:02 am
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:02 am to chattabama
quote:Similar to the way Auburn mailed it in against Georgia
Congrats on racking up yards when LSU had already mailed it in
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:02 am to ChexMix
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And they were 3 plays away from being undefeated. What is your point? That the difference between winning and losing is a small amount of plays?
Usually when people say a team was "X plays away from winning" is an exaggeration to illustrate how many close games they played. In Auburn's case, they had literally just a handful of plays that directly took them from 5th to 1st in the West.
Lets not pretend like they were "normal" plays either.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:04 am to Rabern57
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No. But I also know that Gus's offense is different based on the team he has. This year will likely be a little different than last year and the next year will likely be quite a bit different with a Johnson or White at QB. So its not like its a certain defense is going to shut him down.
Which is why we are recruiting more fast twitch players. It takes time to get them trained up and ready to go on the field. I'm not saying every team will hold AU under twenty points, but for you to expect that your offense will be the GOAT the second year simply because it was successful the first year is blind homerism. Figuring out Gus's offense will be a matter of a lot of discipline and training up the right guys. Do I think we'll hold you under 17 points? Probably not. But I highly doubt you'll score 34 points against Bama next year.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:04 am to Rabern57
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Its sad that Bama fans jump on the lucky excuse UGA had but its pathetic that A&M tries to too. As far as A&M fans penalty claim, no one outside your fanbase believes it should've been a penalty and horse collars don't wad up when grabbed. The fact that its A&M, Bama, and UGA fans that keep bringing up the MSU drive, and not MSU fans, shows that they are just looking for anything to discredit Auburn.
That's a lot of blatant falsehoods in just a few sentences.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:12 am to Roger Klarvin
quote:Hail Mary vs UGA was luck. The kick 6 wasnt. Nothing lucky about putting the SEC leading punt returner back to field a short FG.
Usually when people say a team was "X plays away from winning" is an exaggeration to illustrate how many close games they played. In Auburn's case, they had literally just a handful of plays that directly took them from 5th to 1st in the West.
Lets not pretend like they were "normal" plays either.
And like someone said earlier, if Auburn had game winning drives four times during the year, then it wasnt luck. It was skill
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:15 am to chattabama
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Figuring out Gus's offense will be a matter of a lot of discipline and training up the right guys.
saban has had four years now. If you ask him about it, I would bet money he would tell you the same thing that any fan that has half assed watched Auburn play will tell you..."I have seen four totally different O's from Gus".
That's Gus' genius. He doesn't try and fit square pegs in round holes. He has his philosophy but his plays change depending on the talent he has to work with. Monte Kiffin said it was the hardest O he had ever game planned against because once you think you have one package down, you have to move on to another, then another, then another.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 1:20 am
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:20 am to MrAUTigers
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....but, but, but your whole argument was LSU stopped the O. LSU didn't stop shite. Our D played poorly in the first half. Two early turnovers got us down 14 points. LSU didn't let up for shite. Auburn just regrouped at the half and started playing better. Period!
Y'all had 121 yards of offense in the first half with a score of 21-0. That doesn't include subtracting the negative plays which would bring it down to 106 yards in the first half. I think it's fair to say that LSU mailed it in. Look at the Bama vs UT box score and you will see the drive where we genuinely didn't give a shite on defense because we were so far ahead. Happens to a lot of teams and sometimes it bites you in the arse. It almost bit LSU in the arse, but when they were 100% focused they shut y'all down.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:20 am to chattabama
quote:And to think that the Offense will be stopped because we ran it before is blind homerism too. Which is all that any of these claiming it will be stopped is going off of. Until someone stops it there is no reason to say it won't be just as good next year.
I'm not saying every team will hold AU under twenty points, but for you to expect that your offense will be the GOAT the second year simply because it was successful the first year is blind homerism.
quote:Then again it could be another case of A&M from the last 2 years. Saban's defense was worse the second time around. People seem to not understand what makes Gus as good as he is. He is way more adaptive in playing calling than probably anyone in the country. They showed in one of the ESPN series about how he was doing in the first series what other coaches do at halftime with changing strategy. He can change his offense to hurt the defense easier than the Defense can change to defend him. Its more complex than can be explained here but its not as simple to stop as people like to claim it is. Which is why even good coaches have problems with it.
Figuring out Gus's offense will be a matter of a lot of discipline and training up the right guys. Do I think we'll hold you under 17 points? Probably not. But I highly doubt you'll score 34 points against Bama next year.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 1:25 am
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:21 am to ChexMix
Just man up aubies. Admit it. You were a good team, but you got some lucky breaks, without which you would not have made it to the NC. Every team that gets to an NC is lucky. Hell look at 98 UT. Stoernover. UF missed field goal in OT.
This is a horrible analogy. This isn't a single shot with only a guy. A ball, and a hoop. This is more like four different players on your team scoring buzzer beater threes in four games because the assist pass got tipped right to an open man and the guy guarding him tripped over a defender.
It may take skill to make the shot, but ultimately you don't make it there without a little luck.
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Remember playing basketball when you made a lucky shot and someone called you out and said, bet you cant do that again. Then you did it again. Now imagine you did it four times in a row. Skill.
This is a horrible analogy. This isn't a single shot with only a guy. A ball, and a hoop. This is more like four different players on your team scoring buzzer beater threes in four games because the assist pass got tipped right to an open man and the guy guarding him tripped over a defender.
It may take skill to make the shot, but ultimately you don't make it there without a little luck.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 1:24 am
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:24 am to VFL1800FPD
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UF missed field goal in OT.
After Doug Johnson missed an easy throw to make it 1st and goal.
Edit: In AU's defense, they really only had one lucky break.
This post was edited on 6/1/14 at 1:27 am
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:27 am to chattabama
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chattabama
A bama fan stooping to having to dick ride LSU. I have seen it all.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:29 am to VFL1800FPD
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This is a horrible analogy. This isn't a single shot with only a guy. A ball, and a hoop. This is more like four different players on your team scoring buzzer beater threes in four games because the assist pass got tipped right to an open man and the guy guarding him tripped over a defender.
Let's not get carried away here.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:29 am to Korin
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After Doug Johnson missed an easy throw to make it 1st and goal
Just let us have that one. Y'all made up for it in the following years. And every year since 2004. And pretty much the rest of the 90s. I'm on my phone so it won't work, but insert cheers emoticon here.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:29 am to Rabern57
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DC that couldn't stop Auburn
At the end of that game what was Ellis Johnson doing while Pruitt was putting his hands on a crystal ball for the forth time?
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Not worried about LSU. They couldn't stop Auburn
You guys averaged 4.1 ypc and threw 0 TD's and 2 int's. Just because Auburn fans know that everyone switched channels at half time doesn't mean you can pretend like that was a close game by bringing up "total yard" stats.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:31 am to MrAUTigers
I'm just saying you can't simplify it to a basketball shot when there are so many more variables in the equation.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:31 am to VFL1800FPD
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Just let us have that one. Y'all made up for it in the following years. And every year since 2004. And pretty much the rest of the 90s. I'm on my phone so it won't work, but insert cheers emoticon here.
The 01 game still makes me feel sick to my stomach.
Posted on 6/1/14 at 1:32 am to Rabern57
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Then again it could be another case of A&M from the last 2 years. Saban's defense was worse the second time around.
They got out quick. We then schemed and stopped them until fourth quarter. Deion Belue went down and our defense went to shite. Saban's system is predicated on at least one strong corner. We had Cyrus jones and John Fulton covering a first round draft pick because we had no other option. Guess what though? Saban went out and recruited two five star corners like a boss. He sees the weaknesses and he'll adjust.
I liken it to the broncos. They beasted on offense for a majority of the season until a team figured out what to do and shut that arse down. Do you think that Gus is above what happened to the Broncos coaching staff?
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