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re: Who would you take- Manziel or Clowney? Clowney Leads through Page 8!!!

Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:57 pm to
Posted by GigemAgs3
Member since Dec 2012
189 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:57 pm to
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Glad to see the figs getting all defensive about it.


....and I'm getting defensive?
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22848 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:57 pm to
Auburn had the dominate defensive player in Fairly. Without him they dont win the MNC.
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25617 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:57 pm to
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Also shouldn't we wait to see if Manziel can do it for more than just a year as Clowney has done?


That's the best argument against Manziel.

But if you look at Clowney, he put up those great numbers and South Carolina's defense got worse than they were in 2011 (worse ppg and worse total yards).
His impact is a little over-stated just because he's a freak athlete.
Posted by GigemAgs3
Member since Dec 2012
189 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:58 pm to
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But if you look at Clowney, he put up those great numbers and South Carolina's defense got worse than they were in 2011 (worse ppg and worse total yards).
His impact is a little over-stated just because he's a freak athlete


This
Posted by AllBamaDoesIsWin
Member since Dec 2011
26725 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:58 pm to
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....and I'm getting defensive?


Posted by gnarkill1529
Alabama
Member since Jun 2011
4639 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:58 pm to
Well he does have back to back championships...the almighty tebow couldn't even pull that off.

decorated is a better word
Posted by dallasga6
Scrap Metal Magnate...
Member since Mar 2009
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:58 pm to
The QB... a DE can only affect so much...
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60165 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:59 pm to
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Glad to see the figs


That's offensive. I RA'd
Posted by CockStrong
Member since Oct 2012
157 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:59 pm to
The clownster
Posted by LSUNV
In the woods or on the water
Member since Feb 2011
22422 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:59 pm to
Clowney! frick Johnny Football fig
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 7:00 pm
Posted by gnarkill1529
Alabama
Member since Jun 2011
4639 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:00 pm to
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But if you look at Clowney, he put up those great numbers and South Carolina's defense got worse than they were in 2011 (worse ppg and worse total yards).
His impact is a little over-stated just because he's a freak athlete
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Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25617 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:02 pm to
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Auburn had the dominate defensive player in Fairly. Without him they dont win the MNC.


It's a team sport. Without the team making plays, no one wins a MNC.

Fairley had a sack in 8 games that season.
(2 or more sacks only twice).

Cam had 3 or more TDs in 10 games that season.
Posted by Farmer1906
The Woodlands, TX
Member since Apr 2009
50420 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:02 pm to
How is this close? JFF all day every day at every level in any sport.
Posted by td01241
Savannah
Member since Nov 2012
22848 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:02 pm to
2011 National Championship. Auburn held Oregon to 75 rushing yards. Thanks in large part to Nick Fairly. If you think they win that game without him you're stupid. Cam had 265 Yards passing 2 tds and an INT and rushed for 3.8 YPC which is good. Im just saying they dont hold Oregon to 19 points and 75 rushing yards without Fairly.
Posted by lsufan112001
sportsmans paradise
Member since Oct 2006
10705 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:03 pm to
you always take a QB, the most valuable player on the team.
Posted by TigerBait2008
Boulder,CO
Member since Jun 2008
32439 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:03 pm to
You're right clowney should be running away with it..
Posted by GigemAgs3
Member since Dec 2012
189 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:03 pm to
Clowney will win this poll because nobody cares enough about SC to hate them. Their players become the darlings of this board every year. First Lattimore and now Clowney. JFF's douchiness also brings out a lot of haters on this baord. Either way I'd love to have either one on my team and wish we could let them settle it on the field.
Posted by gnarkill1529
Alabama
Member since Jun 2011
4639 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:05 pm to


your joking right
Posted by meansonny
ATL
Member since Sep 2012
25617 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:06 pm to
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2011 National Championship. Auburn held Oregon to 75 rushing yards. Thanks in large part to Nick Fairly. If you think they win that game without him you're stupid. Cam had 265 Yards passing 2 tds and an INT and rushed for 3.8 YPC which is good. Im just saying they dont hold Oregon to 19 points and 75 rushing yards without Fairly.



It's a team sport. Every member on the team who made plays contributed to the win.
Cam had 329 yards of offense that game.
Nick had a great game. But don't sell me that 3 tackles for a loss (and 2 other tackles) had a greater individual impact than 1 player accounting for 329 yards of offense and 2 scores.
Posted by GigemAgs3
Member since Dec 2012
189 posts
Posted on 5/22/13 at 7:06 pm to
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