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re: Who are some coaches that would consider Texas A&M ?
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:50 pm to LarrySellers
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:50 pm to LarrySellers
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just pointing out it IS possible, at least for a few more months. But I agree, not a chance in hell
I think, it is possible. If A&M wants to pay a 15-17mm buyout and Petrino wants to move to a program historically dominated(42-24-3)by Arkansas and Hell freezes over......It's possible.
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Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:53 pm to Boarford T Justice
exactly
but like the aggies said, they aren't even consider firing Sherman for another 3 seasons, so discussing buyouts and blah blah blah is pointless
I was just curious what level of names people would throw out there for a potential Aggie job. Personally, I think Petrino is too big a name for A&M
but like the aggies said, they aren't even consider firing Sherman for another 3 seasons, so discussing buyouts and blah blah blah is pointless
I was just curious what level of names people would throw out there for a potential Aggie job. Personally, I think Petrino is too big a name for A&M
Posted on 10/3/11 at 10:55 pm to LarrySellers
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I was just curious what level of names people would throw out there for a potential Aggie job. Personally, I think Petrino is too big a name for A&M
I kind of chuckled earlier at how quickly Paul Petrino was shrugged off, but he's done a bang up job at Illinois; those Florida fans out there should tell you how damned near impossible it is to make a Zook team look competent offensively. If Illinois kept up their dark horse run towards a Big Ten title, Paul would be the kind of guy that would be looking to make a splash as a potential HC at a mid level BCS program, or slightly above mid level.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:01 pm to BoardReader
Steve Spurrier Jr ?
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:04 pm to LarrySellers
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Steve Spurrier Jr ?
I thought he was addicted to all the mini-golf he gets to play in Columbia....
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:09 pm to LarrySellers
Don't
me fella.....You are the one discussing ways to avoid the buyout.
I'm sure you'd love to see CBP leave Arkansas.....
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blah blah blah
me fella.....You are the one discussing ways to avoid the buyout.
I'm sure you'd love to see CBP leave Arkansas.....
This post was edited on 10/3/11 at 11:10 pm
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:16 pm to Boarford T Justice
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You are the one discussing ways to avoid the buyout.
I'm sure you'd love to see CBP leave Arkansas....
Yeah, I could care less. Saban OWNS Petrino, he can stay at Arkansas as long as he wants for all I care
Someone just posted that it was impossible for Petrino to go to A&M because of a clause in his contract, and I simply pointed out that clause wont apply to A&M until July 2012. Thats all
You seem really uneasy about this subject though... insecure about Bobby Ps long term future at Arkansas?
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:30 pm to LarrySellers
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Personally, I think Petrino is too big a name for A&M
Why?
Arkansas is a nice program, but what is their ceiling? (Yes, I know they have a solid lead in the heads up record with A&M.)
Why does A&M almost perennially out recruit Arky? Ya, they get some good players, and A&M does lose some kids to them with A&M offers, but not that often.
I can think of five 2012 kids that A&M has committed with Arky offers...Don't believe Arky has one with an A&M offer (they do have a 2013 commit with one though). But at least 3 of our 2013 kids be offered by them.
FWIW I don't want Petrino. Just saying that even with a down A&M program, you can still get better players (using the objective measure of rankings for guys coming out of HS).
This post was edited on 10/3/11 at 11:32 pm
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:35 pm to DWag215
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Why?
Arkansas is a nice program, but what is their ceiling? (Yes, I know they have a solid lead in the heads up record with A&M.)
Why does A&M almost perennially out recruit Arky? Ya, they get some good players, and A&M does lose some kids to them with A&M offers, but not that often.
I can think of five 2012 kids that A&M has committed with Arky offers...Don't believe Arky has one with an A&M offer (they do have a 2013 commit with one though). But at least 3 of our 2013 kids be offered by them.
FWIW I don't want Petrino. Just saying that even with a down A&M program, you can still get better players (using the objective measure of rankings for guys coming out of HS).
Objective?
I'd say you're subjectively arguing with yourself.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:36 pm to DWag215
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Why?
b/c it would be a lateral move. a&m might offer him more money, but its not a better job, and he'd have to start all over building it and implementing his style. besides arkansas would prob match whatever A&M offered him
When Petrino leaves Arkansas, its going to be for a more high profile job. I just dont see him making a lateral move at this point in his career
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:40 pm to LarrySellers
Chris Peterson will lose Kellen Moore this year and that program come crashing down next year. With all that Texas talent, he could turn the Vags into an SEC contender pretty quickly.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:41 pm to LarrySellers
That's fair enough, Larry.
For the record, I don't create the rankings or decide who either team offers. So yes, the measure I used was objective.
If anything, the lack of ability to get highly touted kids to Arky speaks to the job Petrino has done. So I'm certainly not bashing their program (not that I would have any basis to do so anyways).
For the record, I don't create the rankings or decide who either team offers. So yes, the measure I used was objective.
If anything, the lack of ability to get highly touted kids to Arky speaks to the job Petrino has done. So I'm certainly not bashing their program (not that I would have any basis to do so anyways).
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:43 pm to LarrySellers
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You seem really uneasy about this subject though... insecure about Bobby Ps long term future at Arkansas?
Nope....sorry if I seemed that way. I just get sick of the "Bobby is a drifter" BS.
I'd say we have at least, 5 more years of CBP vs. The Hat, to look forward to on the Friday before Thanksgiving.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:43 pm to HubbaBubba
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Chris Peterson will lose Kellen Moore this year and that program come crashing down next year. With all that Texas talent, he could turn the Vags into an SEC contender pretty quickly.
He's got a sick kid who I think receives some of the best care possible there in the Boise area (someone correct me if I'm wrong). From everything I've always understood, Peterson will be retiring at Boise State.
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:46 pm to DWag215
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He's got a sick kid who I think receives some of the best care possible there in the Boise area (someone correct me if I'm wrong). From everything I've always understood, Peterson will be retiring at Boise State.
I've heard that too. But somehow I find it hard to believe the best medical care in the country is found in Boise, ID. I imagine if there were a job at a big program in a place with equal or better care for his son, he'd be all over it
but who knows, i'm not sure exactly what his son's situation is or why Boise is such a great place for him, so I could be wrong
Posted on 10/3/11 at 11:47 pm to LarrySellers
quote:Honestly, the only job I see him leaving for at this point is Texas. That is the only school I know that would havve the balls to pay a 10-15 million dollar buy out, plus the 4 plus million a year for 5-7 years he's going to ask for. Norte Dame to a lesser extent but they would never "stoop to the level"of hearing someone "like him"
b/c it would be a lateral move. a&m might offer him more money, but its not a better job, and he'd have to start all over building it and implementing his style. besides arkansas would prob match whatever A&M offered him When Petrino leaves Arkansas, its going to be for a more high profile job. I just dont see him making a lateral move at this point in his career
And if he leaves, i couldn't even be mad at that point. But I seriously think he retires at Arkansas.
This post was edited on 10/3/11 at 11:51 pm
Posted on 10/4/11 at 12:02 am to songofthesword
Yeah, seriously doubt Petrino bounces...I think he's got a good thing going at Arky.
I really wish there were more elite level coaches out there who are obtainable for A&M because I honestly think the job after this season is as attractive as its ever been.
What's Sweeney's deal at Clemson? I consider them at about on par with A&M(traditionally) save not having quite the money, the geographic recruiting advantage, or the SEC.
I know he's a Bama guy, love his energy....and damn, he had a hell of an '11 recruiting class. Wonder if he could be legit target assuming they win the ACC?
I really wish there were more elite level coaches out there who are obtainable for A&M because I honestly think the job after this season is as attractive as its ever been.
What's Sweeney's deal at Clemson? I consider them at about on par with A&M(traditionally) save not having quite the money, the geographic recruiting advantage, or the SEC.
I know he's a Bama guy, love his energy....and damn, he had a hell of an '11 recruiting class. Wonder if he could be legit target assuming they win the ACC?
This post was edited on 10/4/11 at 12:04 am
Posted on 10/4/11 at 12:10 am to DWag215
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I consider them at about on par with A&M(traditionally) save not having quite the money, the geographic recruiting advantage, or the SEC.
Really? They've won bigger, and more recently than A&M (6 conference titles and a MNC in the last 30 years), and they sit in a shockingly fertile area for recruiting the best talent out there. South Carolina based talent is not to be dismissed-- at one point, they had the 9th most NFL players of any state-- despite being a distant 24th in population. It may not be Texas or Florida, but it was among the best NFL players per-person rates anywhere.
Dabbo is going to be SOL if he's waiting on the Alabama job to come open, though. I guess he's one of the guys you could try to persuade with a big money offer.
This post was edited on 10/4/11 at 12:12 am
Posted on 10/4/11 at 12:19 am to BoardReader
A&M is going to be in the West correct?
Petrino has a clause saying he can not be bought out by a SEC West school.
Conversation over.
Petrino has a clause saying he can not be bought out by a SEC West school.
Conversation over.
Posted on 10/4/11 at 12:29 am to BoardReader
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Really? They've won bigger, and more recently than A&M (6 conference titles and a MNC in the last 30 years)
A&M has 7 conference championships in that same time period...although, 6 of them were in the SWC
Still, Clemson plays in the ACC and the Big 12 south is a pretty dang good division, even if the 2 winners are always Texas and OU (those are two teams that Clemson's schedule doesn't match in conference play year in and year out).
A&M is number 25 in all time wins, and Clemson is 39. But I tend to agree that over the last 25 years or so, you could give the edge to Clemson.
I'm just making the general observation that the two teams stand relatively even with regard to a tradition of winning. But I think the A&M job is probably more attractive (Texas, money, SEC).
This post was edited on 10/4/11 at 12:32 am
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