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re: Which teams face both Chubb and Fournette this season?
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:52 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:52 pm to geauxnavybeatbama
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ill bet you some sort of sig quote or pic that fournette will not average 25 carries per game at seasons end.
Why would I want to do that stupid shite?
Sheeesh.
Let me put it another way.
If Les does not try to get Fournette 25 carries a game ...
1 - Fournette is not as good as good as most think he is or ...
2 - Les is not as smart as most think he is or ...
3 - Your OC needs to be fired.
25 carries is not asking too much of that kind of talent.
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:53 pm to SICEMDAWGS11
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you're right, Sometimes the eye test is better than stats, and Chubb looks like more of a natural fluid runner than Fournette.
Ha Ha! Shocking a Georgia fan wou ld say this.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:53 pm to atlgamecockman
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You're dealing with mouth breathers here man.
Their ability to take into account factors like roster characteristics, strength of schedule, injuries, multiple seasons worth of playing etc that are part of the assessment of a player is extremely limited.
Thank You! at least someone here gets it.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:00 pm to Spunky
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Why the frick are you comparing rg3 and luck to LF and Chubb?
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Two different type players in two different systems.
Because you just answered that question for me. LF and chubb play in two different systems. Anyone who watches football would know that LSU's lack of a QB severly hindered the run game because every single defense we played keyed into it. Yet LF still managed to get the yards he did. Its simple minded to just compare the total yardage and say one is better than the other.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 11:03 pm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:00 pm to SwampyLSU
A. It seems like You claimed luck was better than rg3 in 2011 because he is better in the pros, right?
B. Everyone also Keyed on chubb last year because our qb was not a downfield threat, just like lsu. Also, and Uga were 13th and 14th in sec pass attempts last year.
C. Insulting my intelligence because you can't answer my question about luck and rg3? That's just dumb.
D. College career and pro career are separate entities. What a player does on one level is irrelevant to what one does on the other.
B. Everyone also Keyed on chubb last year because our qb was not a downfield threat, just like lsu. Also, and Uga were 13th and 14th in sec pass attempts last year.
C. Insulting my intelligence because you can't answer my question about luck and rg3? That's just dumb.
D. College career and pro career are separate entities. What a player does on one level is irrelevant to what one does on the other.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:01 pm to SwampyLSU
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SwampyLSU
Thanks for the response to my question. You have proved my point.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:02 pm to SwampyLSU
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simple minded
welcome to the rant
Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:05 pm to SwampyLSU
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Its simple minded to just compare the total yardage and say one is better than the other.
You have no room to accuse others of being simple minded. It's not just stats. I am pretty sure many are also comparing how they looked in he field. Chubb has an elite combination of athletic attributes like endurance, quickness, speed, balance, and vision. All of those any eye can see, along with his work ethic.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 11:06 pm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:11 pm to djsdawg
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elite combination of athletic attributes like endurance, quickness, speed, balance, and vision.
change your profile to LSU and the name to Fournette and it's the same argument.
and he just said it wasn't just about stats. there is an eye test yes, but that test becomes a little faulty when every single defense is keying on your RB because they know there is little to no passing threat.
yeah teams gameplan for chubb, but you have to realize that hutson mason threw for more yards than LSU's top 2 passers combined. Pretty significant.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:14 pm to djsdawg
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What a player does on one level is irrelevant to what one does on the other.
also this is nuts ha
Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:17 pm to djsdawg
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A. It seems like You claimed luck was better than rg3 in 2011 because he is better in the pros, right?
Better in the pros? yes. Better in college too? yes and you still miss the point. RGIII had better stats than luck but that doesnt make him better. Luck just led his team to the playoffs throwing 40 tds and 4,000+ yards. I think its quite obvious to the entire world who's better considering there's only a handful of QB's in the nfl capable of doing that.
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B. Everyone also Keyed on chubb last year because our qb was not a downfield threat, just like lsu. Also, and Uga were 13th and 14th in sec pass attempts last year.
People like you probably need visuals to comprehend, but I think theres a clear difference.
vs.
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C. Insulting my intelligence because you can't answer my question about luck and rg3? That's just dumb.
I answered your question every time. Just because you dont understand what I am saying doesnt mean I didn't try.
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D. College career and pro career are separate entities. What a player does on one level is irrelevant to what one does on the other.
Wait seriously? how is it irrelevant when the level of competition in the nfl is so much greater? You do understand that it's the same player right? It's like comparing high school football to college, any nfl team would crush a college team just as a college team would crush a high school team. So when a player succeeds in the NFL it means so much more than if he succeeds in college.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:20 pm to djsdawg
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Chubb has an elite combination of athletic attributes like endurance, quickness, speed, balance, and vision. All of those any eye can see, along with his work ethic.
You dont think Fournette has those also? Cam Cameron this spring said the most improved player on the roster was Fournette and he was already amazing as a true freshman last year. Dude has work ethic like none other. The one area Chubb is clearly better is agility. Other than that, Fournette has more power, vision and probably speed.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:21 pm to SwampyLSU
I already did all this for you dude ha
Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:21 pm to atlgamecockman
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change your profile to LSU and the name to Fournette and it's the same argument.
and he just said it wasn't just about stats. there is an eye test yes, but that test becomes a little faulty when every single defense is keying on your RB because they know there is little to no passing threat.
yeah teams gameplan for chubb, but you have to realize that hutson mason threw for more yards than LSU's top 2 passers combined. Pretty significant.
The problem is that the stats show one thing and the eye test supports it. LF doesnt have a better combo of athletic attributes.
UGA threw for 37 more yards per game than LSU. Thats not significant.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 11:24 pm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:23 pm to atlgamecockman
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I already did all this for you dude ha
I appreciate it man, it's really hard sometimes with the ignorance on this site.Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:25 pm to atlgamecockman
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What a player does on one level is irrelevant to what one does on the other.
also this is nuts ha
A great pro may not have not been a great college player.
A great college player may not become a great pro player.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:26 pm to djsdawg
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LF doesnt have a better combo of athletic attributes.
Ok well I didn't realize you were a professional scout and not just a guy on the internet.
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UGA threw for 28 more yards per game than LSU. Thats far from significant.
yeah uga's one QB also threw 4 more TDs and 5 fewer INT than both of LSU's QBs. 37 yards can be a ton in a game of inches
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 11:30 pm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:27 pm to djsdawg
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A great pro may not have not been a great college player.
so they just get to the pro's and magically they're good? the work ethic that got them through college just appeared did it?
Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:29 pm to djsdawg
it also looks like we've had some difficulty with the math here. 37 ypg passing is pretty damn significant.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 11:30 pm to djsdawg
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A great pro may not have not been a great college player.
A great college player may not become a great pro player.
But it's a collective thing and that's what you don't get. Tom Brady the goat has won 4 superbowls and road the bench for most of his career at michigan. But by your logic a player that had better stats than him throughout college is a better qb than Brady, due to the fact that they're separate.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 11:31 pm
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