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re: Which teams face both Chubb and Fournette this season?
Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:48 pm to SwampyLSU
Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:48 pm to SwampyLSU
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Just because a player has better stats doesnt make them better. RGIII had better stats and won the Heisman over Andrew Luck but that doesnt make him the better player. If you just look at last year, yes Chubb performed better but that doesnt automatically make him better than fournette. There's a lot more that goes into it
Rg3 was a beast in college. Your other reasoning also lacks sense.
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:07 pm to djsdawg
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Rg3 was a beast in college. Your other reasoning also lacks sense.
Nobody said he wasn't. He wasn't the best QB though.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:20 pm to djsdawg
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Rg3 was a beast in college. Your other reasoning also lacks sense
huh? thats exactly my point. He put up better stats than Andrew Luck, but that doesnt make him the better qb
Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:29 pm to SwampyLSU
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Rg3 was a beast in college. Your other reasoning also lacks sense
huh? thats exactly my point. He put up better stats than Andrew Luck, but that doesnt make him the better qb
How was he not better? You also fail to understand what dictates coverage.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 8:31 pm to scrooster
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Last season doesn't count ... never does.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:04 pm to djsdawg
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How was he not better? You also fail to understand what dictates coverage.
So if you were an nfl executive, you'd take RGIII over luck? I seriously dont think there's a comparison. Andrew Luck is the better of the two by far yet RGIII had better stats in college. That's exactly my point, just because Chubb put up better numbers last year doesnt automatically make him the better RB
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:10 pm to SwampyLSU
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How was he not better? You also fail to understand what dictates coverage.
So if you were an nfl executive, you'd take RGIII over luck? I seriously dont think there's a comparison. Andrew Luck is the better of the two by far yet RGIII had better stats in college. That's exactly my point, just because Chubb put up better numbers last year doesnt automatically make him the better RB
Good job on responding to a question with another question rather than an answer. College Stats backed rg3, the heisman backed rg3, and the NFL draft backed rg3.
What made luck better back in those days? Better yet, What makes LF better than chubb?
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 9:14 pm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:12 pm to SwampyLSU
You're right, Sometimes the eye test is better than stats, and Chubb looks like more of a natural fluid runner than Fournette.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 9:27 pm to djsdawg
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What made luck better back in those days? Better yet, What makes LF better than chubb
What kind of question is this? Andrew Luck has always been better, even in college when the stats weren't on his side. My answer is that there are so many things that go into stats that makes people over look players individual skill. For instance RGIII ran the spread offense vs Luck's pro style. LSU had zero passing game last year. If you watch football then you'd understand that when you cant throw the football it affects the run game. Chubb also didnt have to face Alabama, ole miss, or state last year. As far as power, speed, and vision LF is better.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 9:32 pm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:00 pm to SwampyLSU
"Why is a player better than another" Is a straight forward question. Luck playing in a pro style o Made him better prepared for the pros, but thats not the question.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 10:02 pm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:02 pm to SwampyLSU
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SwampyLSU
Why the frick are you comparing rg3 and luck to LF and Chubb? RG3 had the skill set to thrive in the program he was in while in college. Luck has always been the better pro prospect. Two different type players in two different systems.
While LF and Chubb are both similar backs as far as their styles. So your argument is as fricked up as Kaitlyn Jenners twat.
Can you give one example of why LF is better than Chubb AT THIS POINT IN THEIR CAREER? I'm not talking "potential" I'm talking facts, as of right now. Why is LF better than Chubb?
I'll hang up and listen.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:11 pm to djsdawg
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"Why is a player better than another" Is a straight forward question. Luck playing in a pro style o Made him better prepared for the pros, but thats not the question.
You cant just look at one individual season and say one player is better than another which is why the profession of a scout exists, it's to evaluate talent on an individual level. Just bc Chubb rushed for more yards in their freshman season does not automatically mean he's the better running back. I dont get why this concept is so hard for you to grasp.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:20 pm to SwampyLSU
Rg3 was drafted higher due in large part to scouting, so you seem to be arguing against your point now.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:24 pm to djsdawg
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Rg3 was drafted higher due in large part to scouting, so you seem to be arguing against your point now.
How does that change the fact that Andrew Luck is better? He could of been drafted higher because of his college stats/heisman winning either way it was a dumb choice and a lack of scouting more-of. Youre starting to sound a lot like my mother-in law. Regardless, I think if you compare them side by side on the same team, vs the same opponent LF is better.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 10:25 pm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:30 pm to SwampyLSU
Once again:
1. We aren't talking about pro potential in a pro style o, but rather quality of college player.
2. You can't even tell us why luck was better in college than rg3 was.
1. We aren't talking about pro potential in a pro style o, but rather quality of college player.
2. You can't even tell us why luck was better in college than rg3 was.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:30 pm to scrooster
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Both programs are going to try to get each back at least 25 carries per game
ill bet you some sort of sig quote or pic that fournette will not average 25 carries per game at seasons end.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:38 pm to djsdawg
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1. We aren't talking about pro potential in a pro style o, but rather quality of college player.
When did I ever say one would be better than the other in the nfl? I only used the success some players had vs others to prove a point. And if you wanna talk stats, a ton of it relies on matchups and schemes. So you think Chubb would put up the same numbers if he took LF's place on the depth chart last year? Everytime he was in the game the defense keyed in on him because we had no QB. How does this not make sense?
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2. You can't even tell us why luck was better in college than rg3 was.
If you can't figure that out for yourself then I think we have a bigger problem. It's not about college vs. NFL its about their individual career as a whole and that's where you miss the point. Just looking at the total yards one player earned for just one season doesn't automatically prove anything. It's a collective thing.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:40 pm to SwampyLSU
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SwampyLSU
Quit dodging my question.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:51 pm to wartiger2004
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four nettle is a pussy.
I wish I could watch you and Leonard Fournette in a cage for just 5 secs. It may not even take that long for him to turn your stupid fat arse into a fine white paste. What a douche.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 10:51 pm to SwampyLSU
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It's a collective thing.
You're dealing with mouth breathers here man.
Their ability to take into account factors like roster characteristics, strength of schedule, injuries, multiple seasons worth of playing etc that are part of the assessment of a player is extremely limited.
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