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re: What were some of Chief's screw ups at Tennessee?
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:03 am to TigersOfGeauxld
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:03 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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Just being honest. While I appreciate what The Chief did here at LSU, I think him leaving...along with Brick Haley...was the best thing that could happen for LSU.
If y'all kept the Chief but hired any multitude of offensive coordinators, it would have been much better for LSU. You believing otherwise is delusional.
This post was edited on 7/29/15 at 12:04 am
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:04 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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...is that the Chief was a downgrade to Pelini. I'm being serious when I say, that if I could go back in time and convince one of our past DC's to never leave LSU, it would be Pelini.
Not Chavis.
So you prefer a guy who averaged the 5th best scoring defense in America in three years to a guy who averaged the 9th best scoring defense in six years.
I mean I wont argue, but the fact that this is the entire extent of your argument speaks volumes.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:04 am to TeLeFaWx
The chief's secondary coaching was probably his strong point.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:05 am to shaqfu33
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He will drive you nuts though. Do you like playing not to lose when you're up by 3?
You act as if we haven't had Mark Snyder as our DC the past three years. I'll take the occasional late defensive lapse from Chavis over the utter incompetence of Snyder, and the smile won't leave my face.
You LSU fans have had SO much great defense over the last 15 or so years, you really don't know what it's like to have a truly bad defense. It's why you still point to Chavis as the scapegoat for the 2012 Bama and 2014 Bama games. You ignore that you were only even IN those games because of the defense. You blame Chavis for the loss, as if the inept offense was some sort of innocent bystander.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:08 am to TeLeFaWx
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...was the best thing that could happen for LSU.
...and the recruiting rankings bear me out.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:08 am to TeLeFaWx
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If my team is up by three I know I've done some combination of successful offense and defense enough to get me there.
That's the whole point you're missing. He puts them in the Mustang package and stops playing the defense that got them the lead in the 1st place.
You will learn soon enough.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:10 am to shaqfu33
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That's the whole point you're missing. He puts them in the Mustang package and stops playing the defense that got them the lead in the 1st place.
Two game ending INTs last season came from the mustang package that resulted in 25% of LSU's win total. So. While no final defense is perfect, Chavis's mustang package is better than most.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:11 am to TigersOfGeauxld
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...and the recruiting rankings bear me out.
Clemson had some great recruiting classes under Steele. Some really great ones. Still gave up 70.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:12 am to shaqfu33
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Wait, this is good enough for you? I thought you guys wanted to compete nationally.
You think winning 70-80% of the games in which the other team has the ball in a one score game with under five minutes to go is poor?
According to calculator they always use to determine your odds of winning in different scenarios at different times in a game, the odds of winning a game when you are up 3 and the other team has the ball at their own 35 yard line with 3 minutes to go is only 59%. The team only needs to gain about 30-35 yards for a realistic FG attempt, and 65 yards for the win.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:12 am to TeLeFaWx
One of those INTS was because bo Wallace and Hugh freeze are idiots instead of kicking a fg to tie it they went for the win
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:13 am to fhsdemonfan3131
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One of those INTS was because bo Wallace and Hugh freeze are idiots instead of kicking a fg to tie it they went for the win
I was talking about A&M and Florida. Glad it happened 3 times. 3rd and Chavis is the best defense I've ever seen.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:13 am to FourThreeForty
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The chief's secondary coaching was probably his strong point.
I believe you're thinking of Corey Raymond...
Corey Raymond
Position: Defensive Backs Coach
Hometown: New Iberia, La.
High School: New Iberia HS
Alma Mater: LSU
Graduating Year: 1992
Experience: 3 Years
...the Chief coaches LB's...
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:14 am to TeLeFaWx
Chavis is a great DC. He's a lousy recruiter and his end of half/game Mustang package is maddening. That's all.
And Bo Wallace gift wrapped 1 of those Ints with his stupidity.
And Bo Wallace gift wrapped 1 of those Ints with his stupidity.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:15 am to TigersOfGeauxld
Chief is going to fit in just fine in College Station. Just like the A&M fans, he values stats more than actual in game situations which actually effect the outcome of games.
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It was always the talk about percentages with him yet when it came down to putting his players in the right situation in games to succeed, he ended up failing many times.
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LSU defensive coordinator doesn’t exactly like the “Third & Chavis” tag that became associate with the veteran coach during his days at Tennessee (1995-2008).
So when a reporter asked Chavis about third-downs during LSU media day, here’s how Chavis responded:
“There was some John or Joe or Jack or Bill several years ago, and he couldn’t find a lot to be critical of so he wanted to be critical of our third-down production. So that’s fine. And let me just tell you where we are, OK.”
“Our goal is 70 percent,” Chavis said. “If we finish at 70 percent on third down, then we’re going to finish probably at the top of the league. There’s no question about that. So, yeah, the opportunity is there to improve.”
“We finished at 75 percent, and that’s pretty good. Eighty percent will put you in the top of the country. So we can improve a little bit there.”
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It was always the talk about percentages with him yet when it came down to putting his players in the right situation in games to succeed, he ended up failing many times.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:15 am to shaqfu33
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And Bo Wallace gift wrapped 1 of those Ints with his stupidity.
I was talking about A&M and Florida. Glad it happens so frequently y'all can't even keep track of it.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:18 am to BigBrod81
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It was always the talk about percentages with him yet when it came down to putting his players in the right situation in games to succeed, he ended up failing many times.
LSU has lost plenty of games over the last 7 seasons, and what percentage would you place on the defense? Seriously. Your offense has been so abysmal, you couldn't have had a better DC and won more than two or three more games. A good OC and QB and y'all might have won a natty without Saban's players for once.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:18 am to TeLeFaWx
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Clemson had some great recruiting classes under Steele.
Never, ever approached the same rankings LSU had.
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:18 am to TeLeFaWx
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Just being honest. While I appreciate what The Chief did here at LSU, I think him leaving...along with Brick Haley...was the best thing that could happen for LSU.
If y'all kept the Chief but hired any multitude of offensive coordinators, it would have been much better for LSU. You believing otherwise is delusional.
If LSU had kept Chavis we might not have 1 single LB on campus by 2017!!! I'm sure your aware that LSU has more top Ten recruits from Texas commited on D than Aggie does right? I'd be concerned about all the Chavis recruitimg rumors if I was an Ag
Posted on 7/29/15 at 12:19 am to BigBrod81
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yet when it came down to putting his players in the right situation in games to succeed, he ended up failing many times.
I will never forgive the Chief for continually starting DJ Welter.
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