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re: What was the original thinking putting Mizzou in the East?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:39 am to SummerOfGeorge
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:39 am to SummerOfGeorge
quote:If you'll notice, nobody has spoken positively about doing away with their rivalry.....only someone else's.
Rivalries are what CFB is all about. I don't understand the desire to destroy that.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:39 am to lsupride87
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lsupride87
There it is
Damn, that'd be so awesome
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:41 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:40 am to coachcrisp
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If you'll notice, nobody has spoken positively about doing away with their rivalry.....only someone else's.
The school that got fvcked over the most by the division split and rivalry destruction was Auburn.
Auburn had great rivalries with Alabama, Georgia, Florida and Tennessee. They lost 2 of them.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:41 am to coachcrisp
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The Roommate Switch is a carefully calibrated 3-5 format. Everyone has 3 permanent opponents and alternates the rest at 5 per season, on a simple 2-year cycle (Even/Odd years). This rotation is structured in a way that maintains two round-robin Divisions each year. (If a 9th game is added it becomes a 5-4 format: Each team bumps up to 5 permanent opponents, and the rest of the rotation works the same.) Let’s start with the end results. Below is an example football schedule for a complete 2-year cycle. Further down you’ll find a step-by-step explanation of the formula used to generate them, and why it’s called the Roommate Switch. As you can see below: the rivalries are played every year, and you play the whole conference every two years, while keeping Division play intact, in an 8-game schedule. It maximizes the SEC’s “attractive game” potential in a balanced way, and makes for a tight-knit conference of rivals. Fans, TV, recruits, and history books would eat this up year after year. It would be another quantum leap ahead of other conferences, similar to the SEC’s trailblazing move to divisions 20 years ago. Under this format, 14 isn’t “unruly”, it’s awesome:
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:43 am to SummerOfGeorge
quote:We have been fricked "for the good of the conference" as well.
The school that got fvcked over the most by the division split and rivalry destruction was Auburn.
We lost our ability to force night games.
The only reasons why Bama/UT is safe, is because yall have a block 4 vote(UT,BAMA,AU,UGA) that will never let those games go away.
We were the only team that cared about our night tradition so we lost the vote obviously.
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:44 am to lsupride87
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We lost our ability to force night games.
Agree, which sucks, because once again the expansion and money of CFB has been stripping away all local/regional "traditions" for the good of the overall money.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:45 am to SummerOfGeorge
quote:I know it wasnt your decision, but dont sound sanctimonious
Agree, which sucks, because once again the expansion and money of CFB has been stripping away all local/regional "traditions" for the good of the overall money.
Bama doesnt give a frick about traditions really. They want the UT game because it is what they want for themselves. They are just lucky enough to have the 4 needed votes to block it.
The truth is nobody gives a shite about anyone elses traditions but their own. You just better hope you have the votes in your favor.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:46 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:47 am to SummerOfGeorge
So what would this do the revenue of the SEC. If the SEC lost the LSU/Bama game every year?
Previously in this thread it was claimed that a reason Bama/Tenn can't go away right now is because of how important that game is for ratings.
Ratings for the past 4 years of Bama/Tenn and Bama/LSU
Bama/Tenn
3.9
4.3
1.5
2.6
Bama/LSU
5.8
6.4
5.3
6.9
Previously in this thread it was claimed that a reason Bama/Tenn can't go away right now is because of how important that game is for ratings.
Ratings for the past 4 years of Bama/Tenn and Bama/LSU
Bama/Tenn
3.9
4.3
1.5
2.6
Bama/LSU
5.8
6.4
5.3
6.9
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:49 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:47 am to lsupride87
I like the idea of bringing 3 teams together on a Saturday afternoon and let them play each other for one half to determine a winner. That way 3 teams would play 2 games in one day....and not get worn out.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:48 am to lsupride87
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I know it wasnt your decision, but dont sound sanctimonious Bama doesnt give a frick about traditions really. They want the UT game because it is what they want for themselves. They are just lucky enough to have the 4 needed votes to block it. The truth is nobody gives a shite about anyone elses traditions but their own. You just better hope you have the votes in your favor.
Well, my personal opinion is that I love college football because I love all the unique things about schools and traditions and rivalries.
If I had my way we'd go back to the 10 team league of the 1980s along with the SEC coaching roster of all guys who talked like they had a wad of Redman in their cheek .
I understand that the money is good and has done a ton for the league and sport, but I really really despise the whole "nationalization" of the sport and the league. I hate playing so many neutral site games. I hate everything being on ESPN and being exactly the same. I hate all the suits and all the bleh of everything surrounding games and programs and productions now.
I mean I love winning and what we are doing now, but a lot of the stuff with the league and the sport kind of sucks, personally.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:49 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Well, my personal opinion is that I love college football because I love all the unique things about schools and traditions and rivalries.
If I had my way we'd go back to the 10 team league of the 1980s along with the SEC coaching roster of all guys who talked like they had a wad of Redman in their cheek .
I understand that the money is good and has done a ton for the league and sport, but I really really despise the whole "nationalization" of the sport and the league. I hate playing so many neutral site games. I hate everything being on ESPN and being exactly the same. I hate all the suits and all the bleh of everything surrounding games and programs and productions now.
I mean I love winning and what we are doing now, but a lot of the stuff with the league and the sport kind of sucks, personally.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:49 am to civiltiger07
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So what would this do the revenue of the SEC. If the SEC lost the LSU/Bama game every year?
They'd gain LSU/Georgia, LSU/Tennessee, Alabama/Florida, Alabama/Georgia/, Auburn/Florida, Auburn/Tennessee, Texas A&M/Florida, Texas A&M/Georgia, etc. Their lineup of games would be become much more diverse and interesting year over year.
And Alabama and LSU would play every other year, so it wouldn't be like we'd lose it to twice a decade.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:52 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:56 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Agree, which sucks, because once again the expansion and money of CFB has been stripping away all local/regional "traditions" for the good of the overall money.
Tradition is important to keep as that is your culture and is what makes you, you. It did suck to lose the kansas rivalry. It was getting fun to play Nebraska again (Mizzou did wander the wilderness trying to be like the Big 10 while being in the Big 8 under Babbs). Rivalries are important and should be highly valued. We were getting it from Texas though so we had to leave...
As a KC Chiefs fan the rivalry with the Raiders historically has had a ridiculous amount of hate involved. I couldn't imagine watching a season and not play them or the Broncos either for that matter. All the other games are just notches to get into the playoffs, but the rivalry games always matter. The intensity is always up because in those matches it is not just a game. Truthfully if you don't have any rivalries it isn't really that fun to watch.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:59 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Well, my personal opinion is that I love college football because I love all the unique things about schools and traditions and rivalries.
Yeah I hear ya there. I'm a bit of old school and love the rivalries and traditions college football brings.
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If I had my way we'd go back to the 10 team league of the 1980s along with the SEC coaching roster of all guys who talked like they had a wad of Redman in their cheek
I can understand this too. Although I love being in the SEC, I miss Mizzou being in the old Big 8, which is it's natural home. Financially though it's not feasible.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:00 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Ah, so it isn't all about a "geographical split". The entire idea of the divisions is outdated at this point anyway. We should be playing pod games and rotating like numerous people have proposed the last few years so that we can play as many teams in 4 years as possible, keeping 2-3 permanent opponents.
Mutha. Truckin. This.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:00 am to Mizzou4ever
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I can understand this too. Although I love being in the SEC, I miss Mizzou being in the old Big 8, which is it's natural home. Financially though it's not feasible.
Yea, and I have no problem with the current 14 team league. I'd like for them to find a way to make everyone play more and keep the rivalries that people love (and add some old ones back). I think that would help Missouri ingrain themselves into the conference as well.
I think the system above is the best way to do it, but I seriously doubt we ever get that. One can hope, though.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:01 am to zatetic
Tradition is important to keep as that is your culture and is what makes you, you. It did suck to lose the kansas rivalry. It was getting fun to play Nebraska again (Mizzou did wander the wilderness trying to be like the Big 10 while being in the Big 8 under Babbs). Rivalries are important and should be highly valued. We were getting it from Texas though so we had to leave...
I'm happy to have Missouri in the SEC. But I've brought this up before, wouldn't the Big 10 have been better?
Just the way I think, you get Nebraska back on the schedule. Pick up Iowa and Illinois. Sooner or later Kansas will be back on the schedule (that will eventually happen in the SEC as well though).
Just seems like you have more geographically convenient games, including Nebraska you have a long history with.
Will say it has always puzzled me as to why Arkansas/Missouri hasn't always been a thing though.
I'm happy to have Missouri in the SEC. But I've brought this up before, wouldn't the Big 10 have been better?
Just the way I think, you get Nebraska back on the schedule. Pick up Iowa and Illinois. Sooner or later Kansas will be back on the schedule (that will eventually happen in the SEC as well though).
Just seems like you have more geographically convenient games, including Nebraska you have a long history with.
Will say it has always puzzled me as to why Arkansas/Missouri hasn't always been a thing though.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:11 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
My body is ready for an Auburn move to the east.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 9:13 am to jangalang
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My body is ready for an Auburn move to the east.
As long as you let us come too we shall allow it. Yearly Alabama-Georgia, Alabama-Florida, Alabama-Auburn, Alabama-Tennessee games? Auburn-Florida, Auburn-Georgia, Auburn-Tennessee, Auburn-Alabama?
I can fap to that.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 9:14 am
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