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What was the original thinking putting Mizzou in the East?

Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:19 am
Posted by Al Bundy Bulldog
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:19 am
It's been 5 years now since they were added to the SEC and I still don't see or understand what about Missouri makes them East.

They are in hand Central time zone.
The only SEC west schools they are east of are A&M and Arkansas.
They have no common links with and SEC east schools.

How did the sec brass come up with this conclusion.

This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 7:46 am
Posted by Supravol22
Member since Jan 2011
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:21 am to
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They are in hand Cebtral time zone.


I know, it's a travesty
Posted by GetCocky11
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Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:22 am to
B/c the only other logical course would be to move Auburn to the East, but then Alabama would have to lose their overrated "rivalry" with Tennessee so they could play Auburn every year.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 7:23 am
Posted by civiltiger07
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Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:23 am to
Auburn or Alabama moving to the East wasn't an option. So just put Mizzou in the East. Simple as that.
Posted by roger79
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:27 am to
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Auburn or Alabama moving to the East wasn't an option


Oh, it was an option. But we had to protect the sanctity of two rivalry games for the sake of four schools instead of doing what was best for the conference.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:30 am to
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overrated "rivalry" with Tennessee


Please South Carolina fan, tell us more about which historical SEC rivalries matter and which ones don't.
Posted by GameCocky88
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:30 am to
This is definitely something we needed another thread about.
Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:30 am to
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Oh, it was an option


yea you are right technically it was an option, but I don't believe it was ever seriously discussed in the SEC office.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:30 am to
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But we had to protect the sanctity of two rivalry games for the sake of four schools instead of doing what was best for the conference.


Like play 9 SEC games?
Posted by SECdragonmaster
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:39 am to
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Oh, it was an option. But we had to protect the sanctity of one rivalry game for the sake of bammer and UT instead of doing what was best for the conference.


fixed it for you.

Auburn and Georgia would not have been affected by the move of Auburn east. We did not stop it.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:40 am to
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But we had to protect the sanctity of two rivalry games for the sake of four schools instead of doing what was best for the conference.

Protecting those games is best for the conference
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:42 am to
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Protecting those games is best for the conference


Are you saying a yearly Auburn/Georgia and Alabama/Tennessee game are more important for the SEC than a yearly Missouri/LSU or Missouri/Mississippi State game?

Well I'll be.
Posted by Greatest Success
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:43 am to
Posted by civiltiger07
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:47 am to
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Protecting those games is best for the conference


Please elaborate.....
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:49 am to
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Please elaborate.....


Why would you trade two of the longest played, most historical games between 4 of the 6 historically best teams in the conference for Missouri playing LSU/Ole Miss/Alabama instead of Vanderbilt/Georgia/Kentucky on a yearly basis?

That just seems kind of stupid and self defeating.

Not to mention, it's not like Missouri is close to the Western schools. It isn't like sticking Mississippi State in the East. They are just as close to Vanderbilt and Kentucky as they Ole Miss, and they aren't close at all to A&M, LSU, Alabama or Auburn, just like they aren't close at all to UGA, UT, USCe or Florida. The only school they are truly "close to" is Arkansas, and they play them every season.

This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 7:52 am
Posted by NOLApurpleandgold
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Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:49 am to
There was no thought. None. Zero. Nada. Meth U is the least deserving school in the SEC.
The ADs, college presidents and BoSupers royally fricked this up; letting Meth U into the SEC was the worst decision they could have made.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
14020 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:53 am to
Whoa! So wanting a schedule where all cross division opponents rotates is "stupid and Self defeating"? Wow!

Please provide an example of one other conference division or sport that has permanent opponents.
Posted by makersmark1
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:55 am to
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Why would you trade two of the longest played, most historical games between 4 of the 6 historically best teams in the conference


We tossed AU-UT with the first expansion. That game was played every year since 1956.

Then we later tossed AU-Florida. AU is the closest school to Florida geographically. Still one of the most played games in SEC.

I'm not against AU to the east.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51210 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:55 am to
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Please South Carolina fan, tell us more about which historical SEC rivalries matter and which ones don't.


Ah yes, the good ole condescending "oh you're a fan of another school so you're inferior" argument.
Posted by Sunbeam
Member since Dec 2016
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 7:55 am to
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Please South Carolina fan, tell us more about which historical SEC rivalries matter and which ones don


Not our fault you were doing it wrong all this time.

On a more pertinent note, does demographic change, and the general changes in the SEC (more money for different schools) mean Tennessee isn't "Tennessee" any more?

They have to recruit nationally, and do it well against stiff competition to even hope to have talent approaching what Florida, LSU, A&M, Georgia have in their backyards.

(Alabama is a special case, they punch higher in recruiting than just looking at a map says they should.)

Memphis and the Nashville area have been trending up, but the rest of the state doesn't put out talent like the sleepy little towns of the other southern states do.

And Memphis is like a common recruiting area for a number of schools, UT doesn't seem to have a real edge there (let alone being further from it than some other big schools).

Just saying I think there is a good chance that we never see this game (Alabama/Tennessee) being what it was under Neyland or even Fulmer and Majors.

But yeah, the best thing would have been to put Auburn in the East, and Missouri in the West.

The conference didn't have a problem with getting rid of the Florida/Auburn rivalry, and that one had some legs.
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