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re: What was the original thinking putting Mizzou in the East?

Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:13 am to
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:13 am to
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No they shouldn't be. Not in a 14 team division. The entire conference schedule should rotate, "rivalry" games be damned.


Sorry, this is college football, not the NFL. Things like rivalry games are what make it what it is.
Posted by civiltiger07
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2011
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:13 am to
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The problem is divisions. Alabama playing Arkansas every year and South Carolina twice in a decade is stupid.


What it the actual frick? The problem isn't divisions. It's the stupid permanent opponents.

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SummerOfGeorge


the delusion is strong with this one

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Alabama has played South Carolina 2 times since 2006. That's ridiculous.


that is because Bama has to play Tenn every year
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:16 am
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:15 am to
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Oh so you are claiming that the revenue of the SEC Network/SEC would take a significant hit if those TWO games weren't played? I'm calling BS.

Those two games are guarantee high rating games for CBS/ESPN/SECN. They have to help the value of the conference's TV contracts. Nevermind the tradition of those two games and the huge value to the host towns every other year.
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:16 am to
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Sorry, this is college football, not the NFL. Things like rivalry games are what make it what it is.


I'd have to disagree considering how huge rivalry games were treated during the last round of conference expansion.

The best scenario is to do away with divisions, have no protected games, and the top 2 teams in the SEC meet in Atlanta for the Championship Game.

If every fanbase truly has 2-3 games that they really care about, then every year there should be 1-2 of those cared about games on the schedule just because of the way to rotation would work.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:16 am to
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What it the actual frick? The problem isn't divisions. It's the stupid permanent opponents.


If we get rid of permanent opponents and stay at 8 games we barely dent the issue of barely playing cross-divisional rivals.

Again, I see no reason Alabama should be playing Ole Miss, Texas A&M or Arkansas more than it plays Georgia, Florida or Vanderbilt.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:16 am to
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You just basically handed LSU the West division every single year in that scenario.

That's about the only way they're gonna be able to get it as long as Alabama's around.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:17 am to
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No they shouldn't be. Not in a 14 team division. The entire conference schedule should rotate, "rivalry" games be damned.

frick that. IDGAF about playing anybody other than UF and AU ever if it meant losing either of those.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:17 am to
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I'd have to disagree considering how huge rivalry games were treated during the last round of conference expansion.


I totally agree with you here. It was a damn travesty.

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The best scenario is to do away with divisions, have no protected games, and the top 2 teams in the SEC meet in Atlanta for the Championship Game. If every fanbase truly has 2-3 games that they really care about, then every year there should be 1-2 of those cared about games on the schedule just because of the way to rotation would work.


That is much closer to my desire than the current system for sure.
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:18 am to
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that is because Bama has to play Tenn every year


Again, you should play everyone in the conference at least 1 time in every players career.

Getting rid of permanent opponents does not do that. It puts a dent in it, but it does not fix it.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22375 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:18 am to
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I'd have to disagree considering how huge rivalry games were treated during the last round of conference expansion.


Such as?
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:19 am to
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Such as?


Texas-Texas A&M, Missouri-Kansas, Maryland-everyone in the ACC, Nebraska-everyone in the old Big 8, etc
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51215 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:19 am to
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frick that. IDGAF about playing anybody other than UF and AU ever if it meant losing either of those.


Tough luck?

In a fully rotational schedule, 1 of those games will probably be on the schedule every year.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:21 am
Posted by SummerOfGeorge
Member since Jul 2013
102699 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:20 am to
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frick that. IDGAF about playing anybody other than UF and AU ever if it meant losing either of those.


Agree - I only care about yearly games with Tennessee and Auburn. I'd much rather rotate all the other games throughout the entire league.

Doesn't really matter, none of it is gonna happen.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25869 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:20 am to
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Tough luck?

For you maybe. We're happy with the current situation.
Posted by coachcrisp
pensacola, fl
Member since Jun 2012
30584 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:21 am to
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I'd have to disagree considering how huge rivalry games were treated during the last round of conference expansion.

The best scenario is to do away with divisions, have no protected games, and the top 2 teams in the SEC meet in Atlanta for the Championship Game.

If every fanbase truly has 2-3 games that they really care about, then every year there should be 1-2 of those cared about games on the schedule just because of the way to rotation would work.



Would you go along with eliminating Clemson from your schedule and playing a 9-game SEC schedule?
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22375 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:21 am to
Texas-Texas A&M, Missouri-Kansas

Nothing is stopping them from playing. Expansion didn't really kill those games, pettiness has (especially in the case of UT-A&M).

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Maryland-everyone in the ACC


Not sure Maryland-anybody is a "huge rivalry."

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Nebraska-everyone in the old Big 8


Fair in some cases. They'd already quit playing Oklahoma and Texas every year though while they were still in the Big XII.
Posted by WildTchoupitoulas
Member since Jan 2010
44014 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:22 am to
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What was the original thinking putting Mizzou in the East?

Because
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The only SEC west schools they are east of are A&M

They didn't want to put A&M in the East.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
Member since May 2012
25869 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:23 am to
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Would you go along with eliminating Clemson from your schedule and playing a 9-game SEC schedule?

"That one's different. You wouldn't understand."
Posted by GetCocky11
Calgary, AB
Member since Oct 2012
51215 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:23 am to
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Would you go along with eliminating Clemson from your schedule and playing a 9-game SEC schedule?


But we wouldn't eliminate Clemson in a 9 game SEC schedule.

We usually play an OOC team that is on par with a lower-tier SEC team every year. We'd probably eliminate that game...like NC State, who we play in 2017.
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94798 posts
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:23 am to
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A lot more people watch Bama vs. UT on CBS than OM vs. Mizzou on SEC Network at noon
Yeh no shite Bama is #1 in the country


(3-5) Bama vs (4-4) Tenn would not outdraw (8-0) #1 OM vs (6-2) #18 Mizzou




Look I get the Bama/UT rivalry. I understand it means it shite ton to them. But it is an unknown rivlary to everyone else. Neutral parties will tune in to Bama vs AU no matter what because they know the hate involved. Bama/UT isnt that.



I really dont care about Mizzou being in the East though. I would rather keep them their honestly.
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