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re: What was the original thinking putting Mizzou in the East?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:24 am to bigpapamac
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:24 am to bigpapamac
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bigpapamac
Agree - but playing those games OOC after all the explansion stuff is much more difficult. And, Nebraska-Oklahoma being eliminated was also solely because of conference expansion (much like proposing Tennessee-Alabama being eliminated).
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Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:25 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Again, you should play everyone in the conference at least 1 time in every players career.
Getting rid of permanent opponents does not do that. It puts a dent in it, but it does not fix it.
uh? math not your thing?
If you eliminate Permanent opponents.
7 teams rotating 2 teams every year. In 4 years teams would play every team at least once from the other division and 1 team twice.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:26 am to lsupride87
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(3-5) Bama vs (4-4) Tenn would not outdraw (8-0) #1 OM vs (6-2) #18 Mizzou
That might be the case 2% of the time.
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But it is an unknown rivlary to everyone else.
I'm no Bama or UT fan, but I think people are being willfully ignorant to the tradition of that rivalry to make their argument better.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:28 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:28 am to Crowknowsbest
quote:The nation does not tune in to see the hate/rivalry of Bama vs UT. It doesnt mean anything. They tune in to see them being highly ranked big programs. This isnt really up for debate
I'm no Bama fan, but I think people are being willfully ignorant to the tradition of that rivalry to make their argument better.
Bama/AU
UF/FSU
OSU/Mich
Those are examples of rivlaries that are well known.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:29 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:28 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
They would have an easier time adjusting to the league. Slive was correct.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:28 am to GetCocky11
quote:You missed my point. Why wouldn't you consider dropping the Clemson game?...think about it.
But we wouldn't eliminate Clemson in a 9 game SEC schedule.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:29 am to lsupride87
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The nation does not tune in to see the hate/rivalry of Bama vs UT. It doesnt mean anything. They tune in to see them being highly ranked big programs. This isnt really up for debate
Sure, but Bama and UT are always big programs and are highly-ranked more often than not, historically.
It means a lot in that context.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:30 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:30 am to Al Bundy Bulldog
And the one that makes the least sense.. the so called "gateway to the west" is located in the same state.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:30 am to coachcrisp
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You missed my point. Why wouldn't you consider dropping the Clemson game?...think about it.
It is apples to oranges because Clemson isn't in conference and has no effect on conference scheduling.
The demand to keep the Tennessee game forces all the teams into this stupid permanent cross division opponent mess.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:31 am to Crowknowsbest
quote:Agreed. I have no problem with them playing every year. I am just pointing out it isnt a "rivalry" game for the nation.
Sure, but Bama and UT are always big programs and are highly -ranked more often than not, historically
This is going to piss some people off, but if you polled the country(everyone besides Bama/UT fans) They would rank LSU as Bama's rival before UT.
I know that isnt true, just pointing it out.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:32 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:31 am to civiltiger07
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7 teams rotating 2 teams every year. In 4 years teams would play every team at least once from the other division and 1 team twice.
Apologies, I meant play home and away.
Basically, if you let every school have 2 permanent opponents and rotated the remaining 6 (or 7, if we went to 9) games every player in a 4 year career would play in every stadium in the conference.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:31 am to lsupride87
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This is going to piss some people off, but if you polled the country(everyone besides Bama/UT fans) They would rank LSU as Bamas rival before UT. I know that isnt true, just pointing it out.
Oh yea, 100% agree.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:32 am to SummerOfGeorge
quote:The pod system. This is my dream scenario. Will never happen though unfortunately
Basically, if you let every school have 2 permanent opponents and rotated the remaining 6 (or 7, if we went to 9) games every player in a 4 year career would play in every stadium in the conference.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:33 am to SummerOfGeorge
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Apologies, I meant play home and away.
moving the goal posts now I see. Whatever it takes to spin it
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:33 am to lsupride87
It is ridiculous I last went to Athens in 2013, and I wont get to go again until 2025
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:34 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:34 am to GetCocky11
Again, why wouldn't you consider dropping Clemson from your schedule?....for any reason?
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:34 am to lsupride87
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The pod system. This is my dream scenario. Will never happen though unfortunately
And it makes so much sense.
- you could much more equitably make the schedule on a yearly basis
- you keep playing a couple rival teams yearly
- you see all your-non "rivals" 4-5 times a decade
Perhaps I am in the minority, but I don't mind playing Ole Miss, Arkansas or State 3 of every 5 years instead of 5 of every 5 years. Especially when that means playing Georgia 3 of every 5 instead of 2 of every 10.
Just seems way too logical.
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:36 am to civiltiger07
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moving the goal posts now I see. Whatever it takes to spin it
What? See pride's post below.
I'm not spinning anything. Destroying rivalries is stupid. This is college football. If we truly want to all play eachother more (we all want that) and keep rivalries (quite a few of us want that, desperately) there is a great system that does both.
Rivalries are what CFB is all about. I don't understand the desire to destroy that. And if we want to stick with the current system and destroy cross-divisional games, fine, move us East with Auburn and move Missouri and Vanderbilt West. But most of us aren't giving up the Tennessee game, so we'll figure out a way to keep it.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:38 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:38 am to coachcrisp
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Again, why wouldn't you consider dropping Clemson from your schedule?....for any reason?
In today's retarded college football environment, no rivalry is sacrosanct. I accept that.
But if Alabama fans feel the same way about Tennessee that we do about Clemson, then feel free to schedule TN as an OOC opponent when they aren't on schedule. Same with Auburn (which is more comparable to us and Clemson).
The current system the SEC operates under with football schedule is just a bit ridiculous.
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:39 am
Posted on 3/22/17 at 8:38 am to SummerOfGeorge
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The Roommate Switch is a carefully calibrated 3-5 format. Everyone has 3 permanent opponents and alternates the rest at 5 per season, on a simple 2-year cycle (Even/Odd years). This rotation is structured in a way that maintains two round-robin Divisions each year. (If a 9th game is added it becomes a 5-4 format: Each team bumps up to 5 permanent opponents, and the rest of the rotation works the same.) Let’s start with the end results. Below is an example football schedule for a complete 2-year cycle. Further down you’ll find a step-by-step explanation of the formula used to generate them, and why it’s called the Roommate Switch. As you can see below: the rivalries are played every year, and you play the whole conference every two years, while keeping Division play intact, in an 8-game schedule. It maximizes the SEC’s “attractive game” potential in a balanced way, and makes for a tight-knit conference of rivals. Fans, TV, recruits, and history books would eat this up year after year. It would be another quantum leap ahead of other conferences, similar to the SEC’s trailblazing move to divisions 20 years ago. Under this format, 14 isn’t “unruly”, it’s awesome:
This post was edited on 3/22/17 at 8:40 am
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