re: What SEC school has the most built in advantages football wise?

MSU has the biggest disadvantage geographically. By a long shot. Campus is located almost dead center between Tuscaloosa and Oxford, the former being 85 miles away, and the latter being 90 miles away. To make matters worse, one of those schools has the best program in the country, and the other has been doing a lot of cheating in order to procure certain recruits in the last 5 years.

Plus, MS is a small state and in-state recruiting is a war, even if everything else was normal.

If anyone else around has to work in such challenging conditions, I'm all ears.

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MSU has the biggest disadvantage geographically. By a long shot. Campus is located almost dead center between Tuscaloosa and Oxford, the former being 85 miles away, and the latter being 90 miles away. To make matters worse, one of those schools has the best program in the country, and the other has been doing a lot of cheating in order to procure certain recruits in the last 5 years.

Plus, MS is a small state and in-state recruiting is a war, even if everything else was normal.

If anyone else around has to work in such challenging conditions, I'm all ears.

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The question was who has the most advantages, not the least.

People who don't understand Atlanta don't understand Georgia.

A large chunk of those "Georgia" kids are from Atlanta. While Georgia is CLEARLY the #1 program in this city, it doesn't have the same singular draw as Alabama does to kids in Birmingham or LSU does to kids in New Orleans. Kids in Atlanta generally don't look at Georgia that same way, and generally they have influences around them that could be from all across the South (Auburn, Alabama, Tennessee, Florida, Florida State, Clemson).

So, sure those kids are there, but Georgia doesn't have the same type of advantage that LSU does or even A&M/Texas for that matter. However, Kirby will (and already has) started making inroads in establishing Georgia as the #1 place for all the kids from Stone Mountain/Gwinnett county/etc. He'll get it as far as it can go IMHO.

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I've never looked at states with tons of blue chippers as a big advantage. This is not the baseball lottery scholly where u can sign every single in state kid. In football,if you have 100 in state blue chippers that are all about the same you can only sign 25. Well that means you have to end up playing AGAINST 75 from your state. What people call an advantage actually can work against you.

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That is because you haven't experienced being in a horrible state talent wise.

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I've never looked at states with tons of blue chippers as a big advantage.

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You would if you were trying to recruit to Arkansas - Hawg recruiting is a challenge.

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BoarEd
What SEC school has the most built in advantages football wise?


Dude, I'm barely old enough to remember a few years of SWC play, and I have read up on what I don't personally remember.
The thing about Aggy you gotta realize is that they're going to FOREVER squander any chance they have at a championship with general ineptness. Their own fans could tell you this if they're honest with themselves.

One stat I remember from the SWC days that has stuck with me all this time. Check this. During the 70's Arkansas lost 70% of its games to Texas. Concurrently aTm WON 70% of it's games against the Whorns. (should have meant that they were the dominate team, right? NO SIR!) Texas A&M lost 70% of it's games to Arkansas.

Despite all of their advantages, they find a way to fu(k shite up. Every time. That's why I was never worried about them amounting to anything even when they had Manziel.

They run a cult down there, and that cult has fu(ked them over every which way from Sunday. Can't really explain it other than they're a bunch of morons.

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If you want to talk SWC math, think about this one...

When Arkansas left the SWC, their record against A&M was 38-23-3. A 15 game lead in the series.

However, when you look at SWC championships, it breaks down to:

Arkansas 14 titles (7 outright)
A&M 17 titles (15 outright)

Things that make you go hmmm.

As for Ops question:

Bama has a strong lead in history (LSU or Tenn second, but Tenn has sucked so bad for so long, I give the nod to LSU right now)

A&M has the $$, alumni base (Florida is second in probably both of these)

LSU probably has the best recruiting backyard. A&M and Florida tied for second

Overall, I think Bama has the most advantages right now. Their spot is dependent on winning feeding winning, and they have had it going for a while now. LSU, A&M and Florida are all jockeying for 2nd.

Georgia is an interesting case because they are high in just about every category (location, recruiting, money, etc) but they don't really own any category like the others.

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Kids in Atlanta generally don't look at Georgia that same way, and generally they have influences around them that could be from all across the South

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Pretty close and always suprised that S. Ga kids always seem to have more allegiance to Ga than the metro kids.

Hell,even my old HS in metro Atl we had 3 highly recruited guys and they went to FSU,UT and Michigann and all were offered by UGA.




So, sure those kids are there, but Georgia doesn't have the same type of advantage that LSU does

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True but there is a sizable advantage in sheer numbers.
Georgia produced 215 FBS signees to Louisiana's 95.Hopefully KS can take advantage of the situation and we've also used to NC pretty well (TGIII,Keith Marshall)
UT is the only other SEC school that's made serious inroads there and the state is becoming a more fertile recruiting ares every year.

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How does Mizzou have more advantages than Ole Miss?

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Larger enrollment, fanbase, stadium, revenue/budget. Better recruiting base in state.

Ole Miss does have a slightly better history, I guess, but it doesn't outweigh the other stuff.

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ta, what matters is the ratio of NFL players to each school in the state - assuming

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NFL players?Plenty of HS players go on to star at P5 schools that don't make it to the NFL

These numbers break down 3,4 and 5 stars per state per the amount of D1 schools

Go Jersey!

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IOW, it doesn't matter how many NFL players a state produces per capita,

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Per capita means absolutely nothing.Per participant is the only way to gauge FBS scholarship numbers.I mean WTF do 2 million retirees who move to Florida have to with HS FB?

LSU, a lot of "athletic" and "fast" people in the state. Too bad a lot of them aren't smart enough to get into D1 schools. But LSU have the whole state to themselves with about 30% of population being "fast" and "athletic".