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re: What SEC school has the most built in advantages football wise?
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:21 pm to texashorn
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:21 pm to texashorn
No, the pig's point is despite all our current advantages we will never capitalize on them because we never have capatalized in eras with fewer advantages.
It is the same logic of why minimum wage earners buy lottery tickets, they just know it will pay off one day.
It is the same logic of why minimum wage earners buy lottery tickets, they just know it will pay off one day.
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Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:31 pm to cardboardboxer
You aggies better start winning on the football field, or your well-deserved reputation for pissing things away will stick to you like the smell of sheep shite.
Longhorns and Razorbacks are already well-acquainted with your propensity to frick up.
Longhorns and Razorbacks are already well-acquainted with your propensity to frick up.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:34 pm to texashorn
Oh, look, what a surprise...you're posting about Texas A&M.
Shouldn't you be sending another demand to the SECDEF to get A&M's Senior Military College status revoked...or are you just content with claiming that we're all draft dodgers?
That's right, I guess I'm taking valuable bandwidth away from Soldiers downrange to Skype back home (even though MWR network assets never touch DoD networks).
Shouldn't you be sending another demand to the SECDEF to get A&M's Senior Military College status revoked...or are you just content with claiming that we're all draft dodgers?
That's right, I guess I'm taking valuable bandwidth away from Soldiers downrange to Skype back home (even though MWR network assets never touch DoD networks).
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 6:38 pm
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:43 pm to Alabamaoutlaw
A&M and UGA.
And the two most underachieving in the SEC.
And the two most underachieving in the SEC.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:50 pm to gatorhata9
Yes
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:51 pm to Cdawg
Third page and no one has mentioned Tom Ritter. A LSU poster came close with the Steve Shaw post.
Therefore, Bama.
Therefore, Bama.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:56 pm to Sid E Walker
LSU, UGA and UF
Posted on 7/19/16 at 6:56 pm to Roger Klarvin
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in states that produce more per capita NFL players than just about anyone else.
Close, the state of Alabama tops this category though.
If we're talking about starting from scratch, it goes:
Florida
Georgia
Texas A&M
Huge populations, lots of blacks
Alabama
Centrally located in the southeastern US, talented state
LSU
Talented state, only show in town
South Carolina
Talented state, close to population hubs like Atlanta and Charlotte, not a farm town
Auburn
Talented state, but a farm town with little to do
The rest
If we're taking the past into account:
Alabama- reasons cited above, facilities, winning tradition unmatched in the conference
Florida- huge state, and more importantly the closest sec school by far to the "state of Miami"
Georgia- Atlanta metro. The end
LSU- only show in a talent rich state, but the talent is position loaded in general. D-linemen and "athletes" that can play DB, RB, WR.
Texas A&M- not the flagship university but it's a huge state- I don't think the brand of HS ball they play there is conducive to winning titles in college however
South Carolina and Auburn are very similar. Close enough to Atlanta, talent rich states.
I could flip flop a lot of ways on this, but those are my current thoughts as I sip local beer on the patio
Posted on 7/19/16 at 7:01 pm to Roger Klarvin
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Georgia and LSU, each are the only "major" program in states that produce more per capita NFL players than just about anyone else.
Per participant is a much better gauge and Florida,Ga
and La are are the leaders in that order.
You also have to have an administration that's "all in" and UGA hasn't had that advantage the last 10 years or so (drug testing and a non oversigning policies for example and also a complete tightwad for an AD)Bama,AU,UT,LSU all seemed to have a much bigger advantage in that area.
Anyway,we do have a new president that seems to be more cooperative when it comes to support amd we've finally started to open up the pocketbooks.
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 7:10 pm
Posted on 7/19/16 at 7:05 pm to Roger Klarvin
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If Georgia could ever figure out how to stop losing so many players to USC, Bama, Florida, FSU, etc. they'd be THE dominant powerhouse IMO.
We're working on that my friend
Posted on 7/19/16 at 7:12 pm to MeatCleaverWeaver
LSU by a wide margin
-Not a single Power 5 program in the state (HUGE advantage!!!) Imagine A&M, Bama, of Florida without a single competitor for in-state recruiting.
-State provides subsidies to all athletic programs by providing scholarships for family and friends of local athletes
-Next door to fertile recruiting territory of TX
-Not a single Power 5 program in the state (HUGE advantage!!!) Imagine A&M, Bama, of Florida without a single competitor for in-state recruiting.
-State provides subsidies to all athletic programs by providing scholarships for family and friends of local athletes
-Next door to fertile recruiting territory of TX
Posted on 7/19/16 at 7:13 pm to Alabamaoutlaw
Built in advantages...they're all about the same. How the universities treat the programs is what makes them different. Bama has a huge football budget but a tiny basketball budget. As far as built in, the weather's about the same, support at most schools the same, on and on.
I've never looked at states with tons of blue chippers as a big advantage. This is not the baseball lottery scholly where u can sign every single in state kid. In football,if you have 100 in state blue chippers that are all about the same you can only sign 25. Well that means you have to end up playing AGAINST 75 from your state. What people call an advantage actually can work against you.
I've never looked at states with tons of blue chippers as a big advantage. This is not the baseball lottery scholly where u can sign every single in state kid. In football,if you have 100 in state blue chippers that are all about the same you can only sign 25. Well that means you have to end up playing AGAINST 75 from your state. What people call an advantage actually can work against you.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 7:28 pm to TouchdownTony
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I've never looked at states with tons of blue chippers as a big advantage
Completly disagree,look at the rise of UF,FSU and Miami it all coincided with population boom and the growth of HS FB.USC and Ohio State also benefit greatly from instate talent.I'd much rather have too much talent than not enough.
Do you have any idea how many blue chippers are within 20 miles of Miami?It was the main reason they won 5 NC's over 3 decades. Their obvoius scandals and lack of admin support is the reason for their lack of success lately.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 7:46 pm to RD Dawg
Enjoying this thread so far with good discussion
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:03 pm to Chill98
True. LSU has access to the largest recruiting region in the southeast, where coaches can work mostly unimpeded from outside competition. And it's their own backyard. They are "the" program for a whole state and a much more
Georgia has an awful lot going for it, but does not enjoy that luxury.
Georgia has an awful lot going for it, but does not enjoy that luxury.
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 10:05 pm
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:11 pm to Alabamaoutlaw
Missouri is able to get talent from KC and St. Louis. There are some real studs here, but not enough. We are forced to recruit Texas to fill up our roster.
Our staff has Oklahoma/Texas connections, which will help in the future. That's a big reason we got Alex Ross
Our situation is only better than Kentucky and Vanderbilt imo. Even the Mississippi schools are closer to recruiting hotbeds.
Despite these challenges we historically outperform about half the SEC
Our staff has Oklahoma/Texas connections, which will help in the future. That's a big reason we got Alex Ross
Our situation is only better than Kentucky and Vanderbilt imo. Even the Mississippi schools are closer to recruiting hotbeds.
Despite these challenges we historically outperform about half the SEC
This post was edited on 7/19/16 at 10:13 pm
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:12 pm to Alabamaoutlaw
Bama
Georgia
Florida
LSU
aTM
Tennessee
Auburn
Arkansas
South Carolina
Missouri
Ole Miss
Kentucky
Miss St
Vandy
Georgia
Florida
LSU
aTM
Tennessee
Auburn
Arkansas
South Carolina
Missouri
Ole Miss
Kentucky
Miss St
Vandy
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:14 pm to JesusQuintana
How does Mizzou have more advantages than Ole Miss?
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:20 pm to Alabamaoutlaw
Florida first, then Georgia.
Alabama wins because outside forces decided so.
Alabama wins because outside forces decided so.
Posted on 7/19/16 at 10:25 pm to Roger Klarvin
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If Georgia could ever figure out how to stop losing so many players to USC, Bama, Florida, FSU, etc. they'd be THE dominant powerhouse IMO.
I think this happens sooner than later.
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