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re: What Is It With Bama Fans And McElwain?
Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:19 pm to cardboardboxer
Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:19 pm to cardboardboxer
Why would Bama fans care about the UF AD losing leverage? 
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Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:19 pm to craigbiggio
What does LSU have to do with this thread?
I know cardboardboxer is an aTm fan.
A fanbase can either choose to show respect and appreciation for a former coach that brought good things and made huge contributions to the program or they can choose to shite all over the coach for years all because he returned to the conference.
I wasn't insinutating anything to do with LSU.
I know cardboardboxer is an aTm fan.
A fanbase can either choose to show respect and appreciation for a former coach that brought good things and made huge contributions to the program or they can choose to shite all over the coach for years all because he returned to the conference.
I wasn't insinutating anything to do with LSU.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:20 pm to RT1941
Sure you weren't
Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:21 pm to RT1941
OK
Lol
Lol
Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:24 pm to Bench McElroy
quote:Bama finshed 2009 undefeated with an average margin of victory of 22 points. I'll take every damn year.
He shite the bed in the 9-6 loss to LSU and Bama got very lucky to get a rematch in the national championship game. And the offense was fricking atrocious in 2009. They were something like 90th in TD% inside the red zone. Javy Arenas and the defense kept giving the team prime field position only for the offense to waste those opportunities and keep settling for field goals time and time again.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:33 pm to cardboardboxer
They are grateful that Florida would give him a trial run in case Saban retires soon. They can either get a hot commodity or avoid a huge bust.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:42 pm to JuiceTerry
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Why would Bama fans care about the UF AD losing leverage?
It is fascinating if you follow the business of college football. It was the biggest buyout in the sport ever.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:44 pm to therick711
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They are grateful that Florida would give him a trial run in case Saban retires soon.
Why would a coach go from UF to Bama? Especially if the job you are signing up for is to be the post-Saban sacrificial lamb?
Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:53 pm to bgator85
No you don't. That puts you in WM situations. McElwain is not worth 20 mil plus at this point.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:53 pm to cardboardboxer
Jim McElwain him fricking self is paying 2 million of it. Add in the fact they're coming to The Swamp in a few years and you can take off 2 more million. So now we're down to 4million - which really isn't that bad.
I don't mind the meeting being such common knowledge either, it backed up CSU as well. Everyone knew Jim wanted the UF job, can you imagine how CSU would have looked if they didn't negotiate the buyout some? Both sides came out happy IMO which isn't usual when a coach gets poached.
I don't mind the meeting being such common knowledge either, it backed up CSU as well. Everyone knew Jim wanted the UF job, can you imagine how CSU would have looked if they didn't negotiate the buyout some? Both sides came out happy IMO which isn't usual when a coach gets poached.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:55 pm to Robert Goulet
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They are like a cult and are just defending a former cult member. This shouldn't be that hard for you to understand.
Yet we think Kevin Steele and Doug Nussmeier suck hobo arse...
How does that work?
Posted on 7/20/15 at 5:58 pm to RT1941
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Why should we shite all over a coach that left Bama for another job only to return to the conference a couple of years later?
I see what you did there. /thread
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:05 pm to cardboardboxer
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I don't see the problem with the hire or the buyout. If you believe in the guy you pay what you have to to get him.
That is what I would say if I was a Gator.
In fairness we do have the last two SEC OCs to win national titles on staff.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:17 pm to cardboardboxer
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Ever since UF hired McElwain the Bama fans on here have been going out of their way to run interference for the guy. While everyone else wants to joke about how UF didn't get a splash hire, we see Bama fans talking about how impressive his record at Colorado St (yes fricking Colorado St!) was. And they COMPLETELY ignore the frickup that was the hire and the MASSIVE buyout, in fact they more than UF fans will say he will be worth the money.
I don't see them defend Saban like this! Or ANYONE outside of the Bear! What is the deal with Bama fans and McElwain?
You whine a lot.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:18 pm to CJM
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Jim McElwain him fricking self is paying 2 million of it.
And yall are paying Jim, probably more than you would otherwise so he could float the buyout. The money all comes from the same place.
Plus the fact he is paying two million of it isn't a confidence booster if I am a UF fan. That two million (plus his CLUELESS comments when the buyout came out) shows he signed up for that buyout without even reading the damn contract. That kind of due diligence is exactly what I want in my Power 5 head coach let me tell ya.
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Add in the fact they're coming to The Swamp in a few years and you can take off 2 more million.
Except that isn't the going rate. The going rate to play CSU is $1.5 million:
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So UF overpaid on that deal to subsidize the buyout, which makes it part of the buyout.
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So now we're down to 4million - which really isn't that bad.
But it is. Only ONE buyout in the entire HISTORY of college football was over $4 million- when Texas (the least frugal AD in the business) hired Charlie Strong (who I will note was at another Power 5 program at the time UNLIKE McElwain).
In fact 4 million bucks is more than four times the average head coaching buyout in this sport. That CSU AD bent UF over a barrel, there really is no other way of looking at it.
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Everyone knew Jim wanted the UF job, can you imagine how CSU would have looked if they didn't negotiate the buyout some?
They would look like a program that kept their successful coach from leaving. A program like CSU knows it's a stepping stone, the trick is to get as much out of the program taking your guy as possible. Because Foley sneaks around the country like an 90 year old man sneaking cake out of the fridge at night that CSU AD was more successful in getting his than any other AD ever.
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Both sides came out happy IMO
Well CSU sure came out happy, they got the biggest buyout of all time and only half a million short of the full seven million possible.
UF got to pretend they were happy, but you know cheap arse Foley didn't like overpaying for a new head coach.
It is very simple- Foley went after McElwain like it was 1985 instead of 2015 and the repercussion was that EVERYONE knew who his first choice was. In order to avoid the embarrassment of UF not getting their first choice he overpaid like CRAZY to make the McElwain deal go through.
I mean, maybe no matter what McElwain would have been the coach. But the lack of ninjaness in Foley's hire gave that CSU AD all the leverage, and he used it to take the richer UF AD to the cleaners.
It is a fascinating story that doesn't really change how good of a coach McElwain is. Just makes it so if he flops its one of the biggest flops in SEC coaching history.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:19 pm to skrayper
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You whine a lot.
I was born in New Orleans.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:19 pm to montanagator
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In fairness we do have the last two SEC OCs to win national titles on staff.
Can't take that away from you.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:28 pm to cardboardboxer
OP is right. We have failed to live up to the standards of bitterness that was demonstrated to us by the LSU fans with Chavis. I am truly sorry, and promise to do better when our next coordinator leaves.
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:31 pm to Crimson Legend
Damn right!
Posted on 7/20/15 at 6:34 pm to cardboardboxer
quote:Steele wasn't that good of a coach. He was just a hired recruiter.
Steele was a Bama DC and they don't play defense for him in Chavis threads.
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