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re: What happened to Georgia football after 1982?
Posted on 5/4/15 at 5:52 pm to tylerdurden24
Posted on 5/4/15 at 5:52 pm to tylerdurden24
Are you saying that the reason y'all were not winning is because you were too conservative? Were you not trying to win championships or something while AL, FL, AU and LSU were playing for and winning them?
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 5:55 pm
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Posted on 5/4/15 at 6:03 pm to Mister Tee
Wonder why AU doesn't pick on their MAIN rival...oh wait never mind
As far as the last 5 years go...UGA has won 3 of 5...and all three have been by at least three touchdowns.
"I'm gonna ask again Mister Tee, who's your Daddy? Who's your Daddy?"
"You are Georgia"
"That's right now get on the bus"
As far as the last 5 years go...UGA has won 3 of 5...and all three have been by at least three touchdowns.
"I'm gonna ask again Mister Tee, who's your Daddy? Who's your Daddy?"
"You are Georgia"
"That's right now get on the bus"
Posted on 5/4/15 at 6:05 pm to DawgNation4
Fascinating. I bet your parents had a time with you.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 6:06 pm to Mister Tee
You mean you found no holes in my argument?
Posted on 5/4/15 at 6:06 pm to Mister Tee
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Are you saying that the reason y'all were not winning is because you were too conservative? Were you not trying to win championships or something while AL, FL, AU and LSU were playing for and winning them?
Relative to what Bama, UF, AU, and LSU have been doing, yeah. We've been notorious for hoarding cash and making due with what was cheap (think Wisconsin with better recruiting grounds). Seriously, the unwillingness of the UGA AD to spend money has been a colossal gripe of UGA fans for years and it took off when Saban arrived at Bama. UGA has never spent money like it has been in the past year. Which is why I'm confident we're going to start doing better but I'm hesitant to say how much better because it's still new territory for us.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 6:08 pm to tylerdurden24
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Kirk Ferentz. Would you put Richt on that guys level in all seriousness?
Until maybe 3 years ago absolutely. You could have even made an argument for Ferentz being better.
Georgia is one of the most talent rich states in the country in terms of quality and quantity and is surrounded by other states rich with talent.
Iowa is one of the most talent deprived states in the country and is surrounded by much of the same. They are in the middle of a football talent desert, in a state no recruit wants to go to with the harsh winters and the fact that whole state is one big corn field.
Georgia has more 4 and 5 star recruits every year than the state of Iowa has total college football prospects worth ranking on recruiting sites. They're lucky if the top player in the state of Iowa is even a low end 4 star recruit.
Georgia is an easy place to recruit. Warm weather, tons of history, great college town full of beautiful women, great academics, close proximity to the top city in the south.
Despite all those disadvantages Ferentz for the first 10 years of his career managed to be consistently competing for the Big Ten, making multiple BCS bowls and for years Ferentz was one of the hottest names for college coaches in the NFL. He could have jumped to the NFL at any point from 2002-2010.
Richt on the other hand despite all his advantages managed only similar succes to Ferentz his first 10 years only seperating himself by winning two outright conference championships as opposed to two shared conference championships.
Richt also gets handed NFL talent. Ferentz is given virtually zero talent and molds them into NFL players. Iowa puts a surprisingly high number of players in the NFL, with an extremely high rate of their drafted players being successful NFL players. They are almost annually represented in the first round of the draft with their lineman.
Only in the last 3-4 years has Richt passed up Ferentz without question and only because Ferentz has struggled to keep up with the changing game and has lost control of the program, while Richt continues to be gifted NFL ready players by virtue of the location of his program.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 6:09 pm to auburnphan23
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For all the talk about Saint Richt being close and bad luck holding him back, Auburn is closer to having 3 national championships during the 21st century that the mutts are to having one. 2010,when we won, 2004 when we undefeated, and 2013 when FSU scored the winning touchdown with 13 seconds.
2004: very good point, but USC was not losing in the NC game to anybody that year. One of the best performances I've seen.
2010: Very impressive season, but there was a huge amount of luck involved in getting there. If Cam doesn't get thrown out (I guess he technically transferred) of UF, Urban may still be at Florida winning national titles.
2013: we all know about this season. (And I mentioned earlier about FSU being fortunate to win that game so I don't want to hear it)
Again, Auburn has put themselves in a better position to win NCs more recently than UGA has and I agree that luck is when preparation meets opportunity, but it still absolutely plays a role in all of this. Unfortunately we haven't taken advantages of our opportunities, nor have we gotten the best breaks in order to win a NC. Hopefully that will change for us in the next few years.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 6:09 pm to DawgNation4
I found at least one hole...that's for sure.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 6:12 pm to Mister Tee
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Are you saying that the reason y'all were not winning is because you were too conservative?
He's saying the fiscal commitment wasn't there to be the best we could be as an Athletic Dept. Prez Michael Adams had a hard time realizing that you could excel at both academics & sports. Adams as the head of the UGAA was more concerned with the bottom line(profit)vs. results. That's why we were always one of the most "profitable" FB program year in & year out, yet we cut corners & pinched every penny till it squealed & have still won 10 games a year on pure talent...
Adams is gone & the new Prez Jere Morehead is much more open to the AD spending money to keep up with the Jones' & has given the AD an OK to spend what is reasonable & needed to catch up to the other SEC programs in recruiting support, coaching salaries, support staff, cutting edge S&C & nutrition, facilities, social media etc...
It's a new "Total Commitment" from the UGAAD Board & the Presidents office that has UGA fans so giddy...
We are finally getting the same toys to play with & use as UA, AU, UT, aTm, LSU etc...
This is our 1st real year with this total commitment from the UGA Administration... Gon be interesting...
Posted on 5/4/15 at 6:19 pm to dallasga6
I did not know that. Sounds like UGA might be on the way to ATL on a regular basis. It would be awesome to play you guys for an SEC Championship some time soon. If the regular season isn't fierce enough, think about what that game will be like...just two or three weeks after we have just played one another. Talk about serious!
Posted on 5/4/15 at 6:26 pm to Mister Tee
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I did not know that. Sounds like UGA might be on the way to ATL on a regular basis. It would be awesome to play you guys for an SEC Championship some time soon. If the regular season isn't fierce enough, think about what that game will be like...just two or three weeks after we have just played one another. Talk about serious!
In addition to what dallas so patiently typed out, it also matters that the UGA Atheltic "board" used to actually be two boards that had to both agree on shite before it got done. Since Adams left (praise be to God for so many reasons) the board has been reduced to one and decisions are able to be made on a much more efficient scale.
Posted on 5/4/15 at 6:28 pm to dallasga6
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This is our 1st real year with this total commitment from the UGA Administration... Gon be interesting...
And like I said above, we should be better simply because we'll finally be on a for-all-intents-and-purposes even playing field. But how much better is what remains to be seen.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 6:31 pm
Posted on 5/4/15 at 6:37 pm to Mister Tee
quote:I'd love it...
I did not know that. Sounds like UGA might be on the way to ATL on a regular basis. It would be awesome to play you guys for an SEC Championship some time soon. If the regular season isn't fierce enough, think about what that game will be like...just two or three weeks after we have just played one another. Talk about serious!
All bullshite aside, pretty much every pro/anti-Richt UGA fans complaints &concerns have been addressed by the new Administration...
IMO, CMR now has a relatively narrow window to shite or get off the pot(3 yrs. IMO cause we love him). He needs a SECC at minimum & hopefully that should get him a CFP slot in the next 3 yrs. Recruiting has been ramped up, Pruitt is a beast, Schotty is supposed to be one. The money, the personnel & the support is there 100%...
It's time to find out if CMR is a Championship coach or not. It'll be answered by the end of the '17 season or he'll be supporting his personal pursuits & ministries in '18... JMO...
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 5/4/15 at 6:51 pm to dallasga6
I'll pretty much echo everything Durden and Dallas are saying. Having an athletic department that backs you and does pretty much everything in their power to win is such an advantage. Richt is also recruiting better than ever before (Asst. coaches are huge in that) and that's why I want him here for minimum 3 years to at least see what he can do with the best group of players he will have had. If he doesn't get the team fired up for the actual games though he should be gone soon (and I'm a pretty avid Richt supporter saying that).
Posted on 5/4/15 at 6:51 pm to GoldenDawg
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How about 34-7?
Our season was over anyway, I was over it by halftime. Aggies stole your thunder.
I'm still way more butthurt over 2002 and 2006. Those stung.
We beat UGA we go to natty, you beat us you go to the Belk Bowl.
ETA: If Richt can't win one in the next 3 years with the DL talent and QB you will be bringing in next year I think it would have to be pretty clear it's never going to happen for him. UGA should be primed for a really outstanding run the next 4-5 years. Not looking forward to it.
This post was edited on 5/4/15 at 6:59 pm
Posted on 5/4/15 at 11:44 pm to Mister Tee
Jump back, Jack. The sleeping giant starting to stir and will soon be awake but may need some coffee this year. Eyes will be wide open in 2016.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 5:50 am to Mister Tee
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SEC Titles since 1982:
Florida-9
Auburn-7
Alabama-6
LSU-6
Tennessee-5
UGA-2
Should UGA's status in the Big 6 be revoked?
As bad as I hate it "this^" is a solid troll.... I graduated HS in 1982 and if you would have told me this would happen, I would have bet almost anything against it.
Posted on 5/5/15 at 7:45 am to tylerdurden24
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The two on this list I take umbrage with are also the two oldest: Clemson and Tech.
Clemson won theirs the year after ours (1981) and haven't sniffed one since (whereas we at least played for the title in 1982 and have at least come close to making it in the past decade or so). Same goes for Tech whose last title was in 1990 and wasn't even undisputed; they share the title with Colorado after beating #19 Nebraska in the Citrus Bowl.
And Georgia hasn't even done that.
/shrug
In 1990 Colorado drew to Tennessee, lost to Illinois and Missouri, and only beat ND on a phantom clip call during Rocket's kick return. I have no idea what sort of mammoth media conspiracy it took to give them a share of the title, but it doesn't really matter for this discussion. It actually supports my point, which is this:
If you stumble around blindly in the southern football for 35 years, you're bound to win a national championship sooner or later just by recruiting and luck alone. The fact that even Tech could do it supports this position. So what's Georgia's problem? Facilities really?
This post was edited on 5/5/15 at 7:50 am
Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:05 am to beej67
Jan Kemp is all you probably need to know...
Posted on 5/5/15 at 8:23 am to BarberitosDawg
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Jan Kemp is all you probably need to know...
Jan Kemp took a billy club to the knee of UGA football in the early 90s, but from the late 90's-ish an on you can't use her as an excuse any more.
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