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re: What does the rant think about this illegal crack back block?
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:23 pm to AggieDub14
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:23 pm to AggieDub14
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Like I said, legal but shady.
There is a difference between a dirty play and an illegal one.
I agree. I'm just surprised a coach as concerned about player safety at Bert would allow a useless blindsight hit such as this one.
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Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:25 pm to Hugh McElroy
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That absolutely is a crack back block. It's iffy to me whether it is illegal. If it was a WR doing that to a LBer, it would be 100% illegal. I've never seen a motion WR do it to a DE before. I'm not really sure how the crack back rules apply. Since it probably counts as in the box, it's probably legal. I still think it's bush league. It accomplishes nothing except get a blindside hit on Garrett.
you have to be on the line of scrimmage at the snap to legally block in the back
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:26 pm to TheCheshireHog
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As I've said multiple times, it's part of a package they run.
And as I said, I don't believe you.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:27 pm to Uncle Gunnysack
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you have to be on the line of scrimmage at the snap to legally block in the back
If that's the case, then it was illegal.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:35 pm to Hugh McElroy
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If that's the case, then it was illegal.
the only question was if it was a block in the back, thats a pure judgement call. here is the rule
Blocking in the Back
ARTICLE 6. A block in the back (other than against the ball carrier) is illegal (A.R. 9-3-3-I, VII and -IX; and A.R. 10-2-2-XII).
Exceptions:
1. Offensive players who are on the line of scrimmage at the snap within the blocking zone (Rule 2-3-6) may legally block in the back in the blocking zone, subject to the following restrictions:
(a) A player on the line of scrimmage within this blocking zone
may not leave the zone, return and block in the back.
(b) The blocking zone disintegrates when the ball leaves the zone
(Rule 2-3-6).
2. When a player turns his back to a potential blocker who has
committed himself in intent and direction or movement.
3. When a player attempts to reach a runner or legally attempts to recover or catch a fumble, a backward pass, a kick or a touched forward pass, he may push an opponent in the back above the waist
(Rule 9-1-5 Exception 3).
4. When the opponent turns his back to the blocker under Rule
9-3-3-a-1-(b).
5. When an eligible player behind the neutral zone pushes an
opponent in the back above the waist to get to a forward pass (Rule 9-1-5 Exception 4).
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:43 pm to Uncle Gunnysack
That puts to rest any claim that the block was legal. Undeniably and unquestionably, that's an illegal block.
Bert's a piece of shite.
Bert's a piece of shite.
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 9:44 pm
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:47 pm to Hugh McElroy
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hat puts to rest any claim that the block was legal. Undeniably and unquestionably, that's an illegal block.
Bert's a piece of shite.
Dude that's a little harsh. Your team won and is undefeated, relax man.
Obsess over anything lately?
This post was edited on 9/29/16 at 9:48 pm
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:47 pm to Hugh McElroy
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:51 pm to viceman
Sorry, but when coaches intentionally teach their players to hit other players in ways that are both dirty and illegal, it annoys me.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:57 pm to Hugh McElroy
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And as I said, I don't believe you.
I didn't realize you were such a blind homer. Carry on with your whining in that case.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 9:59 pm to Hugh McElroy
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orry, but when coaches intentionally teach their players to hit other players in ways that are both dirty and illegal, it annoys me.
No need to apologize. I was just razzing you a bit. I still think the block was to the side, and it was a good no call. I understand your point of view as well. I don't know if Bert has a history of dirty plays. I don't think he'll be Arky's coach much longer either.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 10:17 pm to Hugh McElroy
It's not illegal though. Crack back blocks have been around since before I played and I'm old.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 10:20 pm to labamafan
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It's not illegal though. Crack back blocks have been around since before I played and I'm old.
Crack back rules have changed since you've been young. Read the rules posted above. Only players on the los at the snap are allowed to crack back block.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 10:26 pm to Hugh McElroy
If you think its illegal, you'd do well to refer to what defines the blocking zone.
Blocking Zone
ARTICLE 6. a. The blocking zone is a rectangle centered on the middle lineman of the
offensive formation and extending five yards laterally and three yards longitudinally in
each direction. (See Appendix D.)
b. The blocking zone disintegrates when the ball leaves the zone
The player was within 5 lateral yards of the snap, and within 3 longitudinal yards of the LOS.
Hence, a very legal, never to be flagged, perfectly clean block.
Blocking Zone
ARTICLE 6. a. The blocking zone is a rectangle centered on the middle lineman of the
offensive formation and extending five yards laterally and three yards longitudinally in
each direction. (See Appendix D.)
b. The blocking zone disintegrates when the ball leaves the zone
The player was within 5 lateral yards of the snap, and within 3 longitudinal yards of the LOS.
Hence, a very legal, never to be flagged, perfectly clean block.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 10:28 pm to BoardReader
Read Gunnysack's post. Yes, it was in the box. But the blocker was but on the los at the snap, so he is not permitted to block in the back.
Posted on 9/29/16 at 10:29 pm to viceman
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don't think he'll be Arky's coach much longer either.
Why would you think that?
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:33 am to Hugh McElroy
quote:don't know why you are getting so worked up and also confused. You seem to be using crackback block and block in the back interchangeably. That block was indeed a crack back block because the blocker comes back in from out wide, but not an illgal one because it was above the waist. Crackback block doesnt require the player to be on the los in the blocking zone to be legal, the only thing that makes it illegal is if the block is below the waist. Block in the back would be illegal out there, but whats in your clip is not a clear block in the back, was as much side as back. Dont be such a little bitch
Crack back rules have changed since you've been young. Read the rules posted above. Only players on the los at the snap are allowed to crack back block.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:41 am to TheCheshireHog
quote:Or because y'all didn't want a starter getting tossed...
I'm fairly certain they wanted folks to pick up on exactly what they were doing. It's a package and folks started trying to jump the toss that they originally ran which opened up the play action pass and runs the opposite direction.
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:43 am to Uncle Gunnysack
Not illegal
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 12:45 am
Posted on 9/30/16 at 12:49 am to ReauxlTide222
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Or because y'all didn't want a starter getting tossed...
That conspiracy theory might make sense if starters weren't running it too.
This post was edited on 9/30/16 at 12:52 am
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