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re: We Are Missing The Big Offseason Story Thanks to LSU: Georgia is a Dumpster Fire

Posted on 1/9/15 at 12:07 pm to
Posted by tSpread
everywhere
Member since Jan 2015
160 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 12:07 pm to
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In particular, Don Leebern, Jr. is considered to be UGA's "big booster" (akin to Lowder at Auburn and Bryant, Jr. at Bama).

It's also worth noting not only all the UGA grads, but also the Sonny Perdue appointees. Sonny was a walk-on football player at UGA and Kappa Sig brother. In fact, a ton of politicians and Govenors from GA are UGA grads. When we tell Tech fans "We run this state," we actually mean it


Good Lord man is someone pointing a gun toward your head? Somebody call 911 ISIS must have taken him hostage!
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
Pensacola, Florida
Member since Dec 2013
15662 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 12:14 pm to
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When we tell Tech fans "We run this state," we actually mean it.


Until this year

Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 12:17 pm to
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I think he has grown a lot as a coach and the dam finally broke when he hired Pruitt. For the first time, he had an outside voice from Bama and FSU unafraid to go places Richt is just too gentlemanly to go. Pruitt has called our AD out to reporters over money issues. Richt never would have done that. I think the two of them together form a dynamic duo for the program and the benefits are beginning to show in spades, what with a top 5 recruiting class, facility improvements, an expanded support staff, and needed new hires/replacements.


I hope so. I am glad you feel your program has positive momentum. Thank you for the really excellent discussion and good luck next season.

Posted by davesdawgs
Georgia - Class of '75
Member since Oct 2008
20307 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 12:29 pm to
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I hope so. I am glad you feel your program has positive momentum. Thank you for the really excellent discussion and good luck next season.



Thank you for your sincere interest. Best of luck next season.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 12:36 pm to
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Thank you for your sincere interest.


The dogs are interesting to me because I believe in them and it makes me sad to see yall lose a coach like that. Notice I don't put UF fans on blast for basically the same issues, because I think long-term the carpetbagger Yankees will kill that program with their damn "misplaced priorities" crap.

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Best of luck next season


Posted by RD Dawg
Atlanta
Member since Sep 2012
27298 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 12:41 pm to
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all the UGA grads


All except Leebern...

Which would be pretty funny if he didn't have
the influence he currently holds with our Athletic Dept.
Posted by Dawg in Beaumont
Athens
Member since Jan 2012
4494 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 12:45 pm to
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Glad Auburn is your Super Bowl.



It's not. Definitely a very big game for both programs. You called Richt a below average coach, I responded with data indicating he may not be. That's all.

I'll be enjoying Richt's tenth victory over the backup school for Georgians who "don't test well" this November.
Posted by Jagd Tiger
The Kinder, Gentler Jagd
Member since Mar 2014
18139 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 12:47 pm to
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Below average pay for a below average coach.


well only 5 SEC coaches make more than Richt and two of them have never won a conference trophy.

so let me get this straight.... if you pay a coach more, he will win more? but if you don't he won't?


ok


Posted by LSU GrandDad
houston, texas
Member since Jun 2009
21564 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 12:48 pm to
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Why did you devote so much time to a post so easy to refute?


he's an aggy man.

big mouth, no substantiating needed. should go into "journalism"
Posted by Dick Leverage
In The HizHouse
Member since Nov 2013
9000 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 12:56 pm to
Good post. Other teams fans, and most of our own, are not aware of the resource allocation restrictions that have plagued Richt during his tenure at UGA. From facilities, to staff pay and especially in regards to maximum support staff in regards to nutrition, S&C program, consultants, etc.. He did bring much of that on himself by not taking a harder stand regarding resource allocation and Pruitt was, indeed, a God send to him to voice/push the issues that Richt just does not have the personality to do effectively himself. The OP would be very surprised to see how much of the donation from our Hartman Fund(donations to the Athletic Department) were transfered out and into the University Academic funds coffers. I can't recall the exact number but it seems like I read $30+ million have been siphoned off the last few years. Sad thing is that most people who believed that they were donating to fund the AD have just recently discovered that this has been taking place for a while. I am sure there has been strong vocalazation of anger from donors who feel somewhat misled due to their donations not being used to fund what they intended the donation to support. It is certainly an odd institutional culture thing where they had grown complacent due to achieving a maximum ROI by being good enough to fill seats and sell merchandise and being able to benefit the academic side by the business model. Winning another SEC or even a NC while doing so was just considered gravy.

Richt has proven to be the perfect coach for them to prosper this model. In fact, I believe he is only one of a very few men who fit the role to a tee. He is a good enough coach and recruiter to meet and often times exceed expectations. His teams have only not met pre-season expectations a couple of times and he had the one really bad 6-7 year. By expectations I mean to say the expectation predicted by the so called experts. Like this year for instance. We were #12 pre-season and will likely finish #10 or maybe even #9. Anyone can go back through his 14 years and measure pre-season expectations vs. how his team actually performed. Is he the greatest coach? No. He is,however, a very good coach ,administrator, and representative who has done as much with the resources allocated to him as anyone else could have. Nick Saban would not have put up with the restraints that Richt has for more than a couple of years. In fact, he would not have even considered the job to begin with if he knew the UGA admin culture at the time. And if he did hypothetically take the job during those years, he likely would not of had the patience to fight to change the culture. Richt has navigated these waters rather well considering what he has been up against. Hell, he got in trouble several years back for paying bonuses to assistants out of his own pocket that the AD/University would not. He has all but begged for an IPF and it was not until recently with added vocalazation by Pruitt that it's construction became a priority.

The Pruitt hire was the best thing to happen to Richt, and to UGA. It seems the tight wads are finally realizing that you can have a top tier football program at the same time as having excellent academics. It does not have to be one or the other. I credit the hiring of Pruitt as well as the public revelations(articles,etc.) of the Georgia model....resulting in disgruntled donors.....as being the catalyst of change. Yes, we have been reactive for far to long. It appears now that we are moving torwards a pro-active mindset. I applaud Richt for having the patience and loyalty to UGA to last this long. In 2002, on his way to his first SEC title, he was quoted as saying that he "wanted to knock the lid off of this program." I am not sure at that time if he was aware how tightly that lid was attached. But he has stuck with us and given us far more success and exciting seasons than failure and bad ones. Will he ever win a NC? I don't know but I believe he will be better equipped over the next 5 years to do so than at anytime in his previous 14 years.
Posted by tybeebomb
State of Chatham
Member since Jul 2014
1012 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 1:08 pm to
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We built a 100k+ people stadium in two years. How long does it take to build an IPF that is basically a metal building with astroturf inside? What is the "deliberate speed" if not like three months and a few million?


UGA was founded in 1785. There's a lot of history here and we don't just throw up sh#t anywhere on campus.

I understand ya'll are from TEXAS but really, imploding that pile of crap was a super state sized statement!!!
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 4:13 pm to
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UGA was founded in 1785. There's a lot of history here and we don't just throw up sh#t anywhere on campus.



I feel you, that is old.

As long as yall are at least planning to try to catch up in the arms race...
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 4:24 pm to
Thank you for all that info. The Rant works.
Posted by tSpread
everywhere
Member since Jan 2015
160 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 4:40 pm to
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UGA was founded in 1785. There's a lot of history here and we don't just throw up sh#t anywhere on campus.




Unless it's a academic or administrative building.

Once again the IPF only needs to be within 15 minutes from Butts Mehre. You don't have to build a marble pagoda that stands for a thousand years it's a practice field....


The Falcons also built there IPF on a 90 day contract and its been up for over ten years now...

Posted by tSpread
everywhere
Member since Jan 2015
160 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 4:42 pm to
Oh and the aints are 0-2 vs the Falcons...

Rise Up!
Posted by Spirit Of Aggieland
Houston
Member since Aug 2011
4607 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 4:44 pm to
Nice research, cardboard. Yet Georgia seems like they are in pretty good shape. They have an embarrassment of riches when it comes to recruiting due to location. I wouldn't fault Bobo for taking a head coaching gig. If they would have lost Pruitt to a lateral move, then I would worry. But Richt isn't as dumb or lazy as Mack Brown. And the AD isn't as dumb as Deloss Dodds.
Posted by GetmorewithLes
UK Basketball Fan
Member since Jan 2011
19065 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 4:49 pm to
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Georgia is on tDecline long-term.


Thanks for that inspirational message!
Posted by High Diving Horses
Greenville SC
Member since Jan 2015
721 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 4:58 pm to
Auburn has a better engineering school than UGA. UGA didn't even have one until recently which is rare for a big state school.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 5:04 pm to
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should go into "journalism"


I did write for The Battalion when I was at A&M.
Posted by DragginFly
Under the Mountain;By the Lake
Member since Oct 2014
3598 posts
Posted on 1/9/15 at 5:15 pm to
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Auburn has a better engineering school than UGA. UGA didn't even have one until recently which is rare for a big state school.


We have an engineering school. We even let them have a football team and let em win every 7 or 8 years.
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