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re: We Are Missing The Big Offseason Story Thanks to LSU: Georgia is a Dumpster Fire
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:33 am to DawgsLife
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:33 am to DawgsLife
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Not very good research actually. Or at east old research. Georgia was about to give Bobo a healthy bump in pay. He did not leave over pay, he left because he wanted a HC job and has stated that.
As for Richt, he was making middle of pack or maybe even slightly above middle of the pack pay this past year. When everyone began giving big raises to their coaches, it pushed him down on the chain. They have already opened up negotiations on a nice pay raise for him.
So where's you cliff notes and reference list backing up all of this?
All I see is a "little boy" parroting what he saw on the internet or read in some AJC blog.
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Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:34 am to cardboardboxer
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no one melts like a corndog
lol, who's melting and false.
Bama is number one in every category, including fan melts.
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:34 am to DawgsLife
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DawgsLife
You are doing it wrong. You are supposed to deflect first and THEN maybe give the info after I pester you. You flipped the Georgia script.
And I won't debate you that we must be doing something wrong. We have been doing something wrong for a generation, but eventually even a broken clock is right.
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Honest, straight, no troll answer.
Thank you for that! But to be fair that was the "Georgia Talking Point" answer that I DIDN'T want. Hence the thread.
This post was edited on 1/9/15 at 10:39 am
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:38 am to Crowknowsbest
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UGA historically has been about the bottom line and always staying in the black. There are two sides to that. On one side, which the OP gets at, is that UGA is not going to brazenly overpay for coaches, overload the support staff, build outlandish facilities. On the other hand, they are going to do enough to make sure the program doesn't tank, because that would be bad for business. The admin is reactionary, but they do react, which is much different than a place like Miami
So its a cultural thing?
I just find it weird, normally attitudes rub off on people. Yall's big West rival is THE poster boy for doing whatever you can to win, how did NONE of that rub off?
Or is the culture what it is BECAUSE of Auburn? Like some drive to not be like them?
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:38 am to cardboardboxer
wake me up when someone has some bait worth responding to
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:40 am to cardboardboxer
LOL UGA owns Auburn. Nice try though.
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:44 am to cardboardboxer
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Georgia is like Downton Abbey, it was setup to be great before I was born. Yall are just caretakers trying to keep the estate from running into the ground,
Hahaha a Downton Abbey reference!
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:46 am to cardboardboxer
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So its a cultural thing?
I just find it weird, normally attitudes rub off on people. Yall's big West rival is THE poster boy for doing whatever you can to win, how did NONE of that rub off?
Or is the culture what it is BECAUSE of Auburn? Like some drive to not be like them?
I really don't think UGA's decision-makers give a frick about what Auburn does. I think they definitely see Florida as their more comparable peer, especially since McGarity came from UF under Foley.
In a broader sense, I think there's an internal conflict at UGA about the role of football. That's why I think they're so reactionary. They just want to maintain the status quo for now.
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:46 am to Hobnail
I wasn't "trying" to do anything but have a greater understanding. There HAS TO be a reason Georgia doesn't have the cultural priorities most other SEC program have. Yall are like Florida but without the snooty Yankee base or basketball success. It makes no sense when viewed from far away.
Obviously yall are experiencing a level of success that most programs would love to have, but given your setup if yall had the drive and the frick it all a Bama or Auburn does you would dominate college football.
Is that it? You get so much by not trying, so you fool yourselves into thinking you can elevate yourself out of the muck that is the SEC brandwise? That would backup the poor PR argument.
Or is it simply the existence of the Atlanta Falcons puts the football priorities in the state elsewhere?
The mystery of your priorities begs to be solved.
Obviously yall are experiencing a level of success that most programs would love to have, but given your setup if yall had the drive and the frick it all a Bama or Auburn does you would dominate college football.
Is that it? You get so much by not trying, so you fool yourselves into thinking you can elevate yourself out of the muck that is the SEC brandwise? That would backup the poor PR argument.
Or is it simply the existence of the Atlanta Falcons puts the football priorities in the state elsewhere?
The mystery of your priorities begs to be solved.
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:48 am to Crowknowsbest
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In a broader sense, I think there's an internal conflict at UGA about the role of football.
Why?
What is it about yall that you don't adopt the SEC mentality of the rest of the Big 6 minus UF?
Since you say it is a long-term situation I am leaning to the answer being the Atlanta Falcons.
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:52 am to cardboardboxer
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Why?
I'm out of my depth here, but my somewhat informed guess is that it's related to the relative boom in UGA's academic reputation over the last 15 years or so. I think there is probably a segment of the university that doesn't want to jeopardize that growth by taking on the role of whatever-it-takes football power.
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:56 am to tylerdurden24
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Butts-Mehre
Lulz
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:56 am to cardboardboxer
UGA is more interested in its academic standing. Our admins are NOT ALL IN for football like Alabama, Auburn, etc. UGA admins have found what they feel is an optimal return on investment that has made our university one of the most profitable in the nation. They spend just enough to win at a high level but not the highest level; just enough to keep the money flowing in. Once you understand this, your dilemma relative to UGA will be answered.
Posted on 1/9/15 at 10:58 am to cardboardboxer
Go read up on Jan Kemp and the aftermath. UGA was a strong leader in athletics prior to the investigations and change of direction.
Michael Adams was imposed upon the school by the BOR and well you will see what happened.
"FYI" McEarsgarity was Vince Dooleys hand picked man for the AD slot with a letter of reference and Adams ignored his advice before he booted Vince out the door. "some people"
Michael Adams was imposed upon the school by the BOR and well you will see what happened.
"FYI" McEarsgarity was Vince Dooleys hand picked man for the AD slot with a letter of reference and Adams ignored his advice before he booted Vince out the door. "some people"
Posted on 1/9/15 at 11:08 am to tSpread
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McEarsgarity
0/10
Posted on 1/9/15 at 11:11 am to Crowknowsbest
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tFlatline
I'd go more with tGradualIncline. Georgia is getting better, but not by leaps and bounds. We're playing the tortoise to the Bama, Auburn, A&M, etc. hare.
Posted on 1/9/15 at 11:14 am to tSpread
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Go read up on Jan Kemp and the aftermath. UGA was a strong leader in athletics prior to the investigations and change of direction.
Auburnphan
Is that you?
Posted on 1/9/15 at 11:15 am to tylerdurden24
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Mike bobo said there was no amount of money that could have kept him at UGA. Once the job was offered to him he was gone. Not to mention that we then gave Pruitt a 1.3 mill a year raise.
Why did you devote so much time to a post so easy to refute?
Do not be so disingenuous. I have read plenty of Georgia threads complaining about the Administration and powers that be at Georgia at odds with the Athletic future.
Posted on 1/9/15 at 11:20 am to cardboardboxer
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What is it about yall that you don't adopt the SEC mentality of the rest of the Big 6 minus UF?
Georgia stopped being your typical SEC school in the late 90's when Michael Adams became president. This was both for much better and much worse. On the one hand, Adams enacted a lot of policies and changes at the University that boosted its academic prestige (and its still going). On the other, Adams was very shady and a huge narcissist. He detested the idea that Vince Dooley (who was our longtime AD after he retired from coaching in the late 80s) was the king of campus and not himself, the President. So, he more or less maneuvered to have Vince forced out and replaced him with Damon "Red Panties" Evans who, while a Dooley protege, was basically hired because he would be a yes man for what Adams wanted. While Adams and Evans have both since left UGA, that attitude and mentality has stuck around for a long time: UGA is a fabulously wealthy program living a middle class life. It seems that we're only now shaking it and trying to run a University with great academics AND athletics. Why? It's hard to say. Someone had enough, though, be it the fans/boosters or President.
Posted on 1/9/15 at 11:21 am to cardboardboxer
Well done, OP 
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