re: Watching Auburn FSU 2014

Because when people say things that are dumb and wrong, they get corrected.

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After watching the game again it is obvious FSU stole Auburn's signals there is no other explanation why Auburn's offense would slow down so much in the second half.

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AU's DL manhandled FSU's OL

Bama's DL was superior talent wise last yr to AU's and AU's DL was pretty clearly the best FSU had faced

I think the perception was that the gap was hugely in favor of FSU and I wasn't as sure as the talking heads etc made that seem just based off talent.

Bama's secondary struggled mightily because of AU's great OL and lack of pressure. That wouldn't have been the case in that game, but AU did what it had to do to beat Bama fair and square, they just needed depth and the BCS CG would've been a 30 point blowout in favor of AU

It wasn't so much the depth. It was mostly just every break going FSUs way that second half.

Anyway I was so sure AU was going to win that game. Didn't give a frick about the experts who might know 10% as much as I do about AU on their best day ever.

Bet several thousand on AU in vegas the weekend before I was so confident. And I only bet on 6 college games all year last year. Won them all except the fsu one.

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Bama's DL was superior talent wise last yr to AU's

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maybe roughly equal to Auburn…now Linebackers is another story

I bet on the moneyline at 3:1 odds for AU to win outright. I took AU plus the 9 or whatever as well as a hedge, but had about 3k on AU winning outright.

The difference was our offense was shut down in the third quarter and two busted plays in the fourth. A returned kickoff and the other busted play turned into 14 of their 24 second half points. Your towel theory is bs.

But but but they didn't want to be there. Remember? That was a consolation game which bama simply doesn't play for. Championship or bust. I will say, though, that I think Alabama would have curbed FSU

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1. One of your 2 reasons is totally debunked and mostly by your own dumb arse. You said yourself that sometimes it takes awhile for an offense or a defense to catch up...for one or the other to get in a rhythm. And you apply this to explain the FSU defense not handling Auburn's offense, but then throw out your OWN explanation for FSU's offense struggling.

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I never said anything about "one needing the other to get into a rhythm."

Since you lack reading comp skills, I'll lay it out for you in even simpler terms:
FSU's defense was on the field for much longer than they were used to, and were tired. Therefore they struggled to stop AU's offense.

But again.... This is irrelevant to the discussion, and have already conceded this point, so that you simpletons would drop it.

However, the butthurt is very strong, and y'all just can let it go.

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2. Your own theory is debunked by the lack of offensive production by FSU in the 3rd quarter. So Auburn had a significant unfair advantage for 2 quarters because they were able to steal offense signals..and it was so significant, that when they lost the advantage, it resulted in absolutely no f***ing change in the game. Here was your quote:

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Way to cherry pick

Okay.... FSU's score did not skyrocket immediately, but their per play production went up 75% "post towels", and we all saw what we were used to seeing from FSU's offense, as well as AU's defense.

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I especially like your totally ignoring this excellent point. Obviously you know he wasn't talking about "defensive counter calls". He was talking about the impracticality of the mechanics/logistics of stealing signals, making a new D call and communicating anything other than run/pass. There is no time for that.

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I especially love you ignoring the fact that stealing signals is a common practice. Why bother, if it's completely useless and impractical?

You also have AU fans claiming Bama was stealing calls in the 2010 Iron Bowl.

It's possible they were just fricking with me, though. IDK

There frequently is time to steal signals and relay calls into the defense.

It's also possible that the players on the field knew what to look for from FSU's sidelines themselves, and didn't need new calls relayed in.

I'm not exactly sure of all of the nuances of how AU did it, but again, THIS IS A COMMON PRACTICE. Teams do it all the time, and wouldn't bother, if it were as useless as you and your brethren claim.

It has taken place in other games. It has taken place in other AU games. It will continue to take place.

Not sure why this game is so precious to you that you refuse to believe it could have happened in this one.

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4. There are some games where you say "wow...it looks like the defense knows exactly what the offense is going to do!". Where they all know a screen is coming, or a delayed draw, or none of the safeties/LB's bite on play action..etc.. I don't know if in those situations someone was stealing signals

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Why would the bother? Per you,this is a useless practice.

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No one felt that way about this game but you.

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And Jimbo
And KB
And many others
No matter how many times you say it, this statement is completely, indisputably, 100% untrue

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Auburn was winning at the point of attack and Jameis just wasn't on target. Auburn was still creating havok at the line of scrimmage in the 4th but Jameis starting doing Heisman shite. All the sudden he became a sniper again. His receivers were no less or no more open than before...but he just was way more accurate. And if his receivers were no more or no less open than before, explain again to me Auburn's benefit from stealing signals?

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Again, I haven't watched the game since it originally aired. I won't argue that they were "no more or no less open" once the towels went up.

But you don't know, either. You're just talking out of your arse.

AU's DBs sucked. It's hard to believe that they would all of the sudden become world beaters against a great receiving corps, and an overall incredibly balanced, potent offense like FSU's.

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Remember Jameis' clutch, long run where he stiff-armed Kris Frost? How did the towels help him do that? Or did he just start playing better? Same play happened in the 2nd and Frost wrapped him up that time. Did having the offense signals help Frost tackle?

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I feel more and more confident in my argument with you guys feeling the need to point to such specific examples of the towels possibly not being a factor.

"They only scored 3 points in the rest of the third quarter!! The towels meant NOTHING!!!"

"Jameis had a big run. Therefore, the signal stealing accusations are false, Jimbo is a liar, and KB was clueless. We're Barners.... We know more about what happened on the field that day!!"

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5. You throw out the idea of FSU not seeing a team like Auburn all year...that FSU was BY FAR the superior team. Auburn was the champion of the SEC...a conference that dwarfs the ACC...apparently everyone but you knows this. By midseason, and definitely by the end of the season, Auburn was on fire. Everyone but you expected a close game. And you are doing this on an SEC board.

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Ah yes.... the SEC is superior stance.

Damn straight the SEC is superior. The ACC was the second WORST of the aq conferences, and the SEC was the best.

But FSU had faced a UF defense that was far better than AU's. While UF struggled a great deal last year, no SEC team whooped that arse like FSU.

I'll repeat myself again.... FSU was built more like the classic SEC powerhouses than AU was.

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No one but you feels like FSU should have won that game. It was about like Auburn/UGA. Once UGA went up, Auburn should have lost. Once Auburn went up by 3 scores, that should have been it.

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Seriously, you would have flunked debate class with flying colors. The only thing you do well is the willingness and ability to twist your own perception to meet a certain outcome/truth, and march in circles singing Mary had a little lamb, as your stupid theory is torn apart...you are relentless, I will give you that. I wish you were a criminal defense attorney though because there would be a lot more criminals in jail if you were. Not conceding that you have lost a debate doesn't mean you didn't lose. It just means you are a sore loser.

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You're posting this in the same post where you have used straw man tactics:

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You said yourself that sometimes it takes awhile for an offense or a defense to catch up...for one or the other to get in a rhythm.

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No, I never said this at all

And have contradicted yourself:

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He was talking about the impracticality of the mechanics/logistics of stealing signals, making a new D call and communicating anything other than run/pass. There is no time for that.

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There are some games where you say "wow...it looks like the defense knows exactly what the offense is going to do!". Where they all know a screen is coming, or a delayed draw, or none of the safeties/LB's bite on play action..etc.. I don't know if in those situations someone was stealing signals or someone was really well prepared

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So... You're open to the possibility of teams stealing signals in other games, but not this one.

What was that about debate class again?

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Funny how you dismiss AU fans because of implied bias and then cite two people with an equal, if not greater, bias from the other side to prove your terrible point.

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I see where you are coming from, and Jimbo's comments came after the game, but I seriously doubt that KB was pleading with his coaches on the sideline to do something about AU stealing signals, because of team bias.

I'd love to hear anyone from AU's side (besides fans) weigh in on the subject, but I haven't found anything.