re: Watching Auburn FSU 2014

After watching the game again it is obvious FSU stole Auburn's signals there is no other explanation why Auburn's offense would slow down so much in the second half.

Jerrnigan?

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Miyagi, have you seriously been arguing with people about this game when you haven't even watched it through?

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No

I have watched it all the way through, but not since it aired originally.

Try not to be stupid.

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Their run game was awful against AU DL.

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148 yards rushing, at almost 5 yards per carry.

Yeah...... HORRIBLE

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No way Lawson makes it back on the field this year. Didn't he just tear his acl

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Although there hasn't been an official announcement of the severity of the injury, it's believed that it was only a partial tear. He's also a pretty fast healer. We'll see how it plays out.

Does no one else appreciate the irony of AU losing to a bunch of towels?

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MrFreakinMiyagi

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I'm the original.

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Here is what you are clinging to. 1. Jimbo Fisher's kneejerk reaction to a comment by his WR, and a comment he never should have made, immediately after the game, long before he would have had any opportunity to review the game and see if it was actually likely. 2. The FSU offensive lack of success, then their sudden success in the 4th quarter.

Here's the problem with your theory...or rather, here is the mountain of problems with your theory (that is what it is, by the way, a theory).

1. One of your 2 reasons is totally debunked and mostly by your own dumb arse. You said yourself that sometimes it takes awhile for an offense or a defense to catch up...for one or the other to get in a rhythm. And you apply this to explain the FSU defense not handling Auburn's offense, but then throw out your OWN explanation for FSU's offense struggling.

2. Your own theory is debunked by the lack of offensive production by FSU in the 3rd quarter. So Auburn had a significant unfair advantage for 2 quarters because they were able to steal offense signals..and it was so significant, that when they lost the advantage, it resulted in absolutely no f***ing change in the game. Here was your quote:

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These are facts. Once the towels went up, so did FSU's score"

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Oops. Golf clap buddy

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Even if you believe this lame arse shite, it's not even practical. You think Auburn devised a way to communicate pass routes to each individual CB for each FSU WR before each play? It's not plausible or practical. A play has to be called from the booth, a signal sent out, and then a counter call from the DC has to be made. That call then must be communicated to the defense.

Defensive counter calls happen ALL THE TIME

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I especially like your totally ignoring this excellent point. Obviously you know he wasn't talking about "defensive counter calls". He was talking about the impracticality of the mechanics/logistics of stealing signals, making a new D call and communicating anything other than run/pass. There is no time for that.

4. There are some games where you say "wow...it looks like the defense knows exactly what the offense is going to do!". Where they all know a screen is coming, or a delayed draw, or none of the safeties/LB's bite on play action..etc.. I don't know if in those situations someone was stealing signals or someone was really well prepared...but we have all seen those games. No one felt that way about this game but you. Auburn was winning at the point of attack and Jameis just wasn't on target. Auburn was still creating havok at the line of scrimmage in the 4th but Jameis starting doing Heisman shite. All the sudden he became a sniper again. His receivers were no less or no more open than before...but he just was way more accurate. And if his receivers were no more or no less open than before, explain again to me Auburn's benefit from stealing signals?

Remember Jameis' clutch, long run where he stiff-armed Kris Frost? How did the towels help him do that? Or did he just start playing better? Same play happened in the 2nd and Frost wrapped him up that time. Did having the offense signals help Frost tackle?

5. You throw out the idea of FSU not seeing a team like Auburn all year...that FSU was BY FAR the superior team. Auburn was the champion of the SEC...a conference that dwarfs the ACC...apparently everyone but you knows this. By midseason, and definitely by the end of the season, Auburn was on fire. Everyone but you expected a close game. And you are doing this on an SEC board.



No one but you feels like FSU should have won that game. It was about like Auburn/UGA. Once UGA went up, Auburn should have lost. Once Auburn went up by 3 scores, that should have been it.

I love how ATPBers and the like (conspiracy theorists) jedi mind f*** themselves into their conspiracy theories being true...and even as their theory crumbles around them, they just continue to say the same things, very matter of factly "It's true that Auburn stole signals. The evidence supports this (as long as you ignore all of the evidence to the counter)". That's why ATPB happened...all participants wanted to bathe in their conspiracy theories in an orgy of delusion with fellow ATPB'ers without the inconvenient distractions of facts, opinions to the counter, or the fact that non-mentally ill people disagreed. You on the other hand, sir, don't need your own Lord of the Flies thread...you are perfectly willing to have your own delusional fapfest right here.

Seriously, you would have flunked debate class with flying colors. The only thing you do well is the willingness and ability to twist your own perception to meet a certain outcome/truth, and march in circles singing Mary had a little lamb, as your stupid theory is torn apart...you are relentless, I will give you that. I wish you were a criminal defense attorney though because there would be a lot more criminals in jail if you were. Not conceding that you have lost a debate doesn't mean you didn't lose. It just means you are a sore loser.

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The offensive surge that took place

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When did this "offensive surge" take place? FSU scored 2 offensive TDs in the second half, one of which came when a 6 yard hitch route that was well covered turned into a 60 yard gain after both guys missed a simple tackle.

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Really? A bunch of AU fans disagree with me? I'm shocked

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Guess what? Jimbo Fischer doesn't, nor does Kelvin Benjamin, and their opinions>>>>>>>> every opinion here

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Funny how you dismiss AU fans because of implied bias and then cite two people with an equal, if not greater, bias from the other side to prove your terrible point.

Hell even LSU would've stomped a fricking mud hole in the Noles with a competent D and a beastly running game

It sickened me all last year to hear the ACC bias and how well FSU looked all year crushing Duke, NC State, UNC, Boston College

When real competition reared its head in the form of AU, a team who was a year early last yr (lack of depth was the biggest issue) FSU was manhandled for 2 1/2 - 3 quarters out physicaled by a team that wasn't even that physical on D and the depth and lack of experience made the AU team wear thin enough that FSU was able to take advantage. The Noles still were a good team, just not as good as you make them out to be.

Could you imagine what Bama's D last year would've done against the rapist had Bama won the IB and SEC CG?

Exactly. FSU's offense scored 1 TD in the second half until that last drive where 90% came on one play because our db's tackled each other instead of the receiver. And didnt that one TD come off the interception?

As already pointed out, FSU had everything go right for them to get back into the game, the fake punt, Marshalls int, the hold calling back our TD, the kickoff return when our guy pulled the hammy, our DBs running into each other, etc. It happens sometimes and it happened for FSU that night.