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re: Was the Auburn Kick6 truly a "miracle" play?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:23 pm to JuiceTerry
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:23 pm to JuiceTerry
I think, therefore I am.
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:24 pm to flyAU
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Very informative post.
Like I said, Extremely Rare (like only once ever), but not a Miracle.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:25 pm to flyAU
UGA- was luck unlike a Hail Mary where you are throwing into several receivers it was an under thrown ball that was "miraculously" tipped into the hands of a Auburn receiver. The ball literally floated into his hands over his shoulder.
Bama- wasn't luck but was very unusual and even more unlikely. Mainly because the situation will happen far less than a QB throwing a prayer ball at the end of a game. The Bama kicker left it short to Auburns best return man and the Auburn defense set up a nice wall which Davis used to run into history.
Bama- wasn't luck but was very unusual and even more unlikely. Mainly because the situation will happen far less than a QB throwing a prayer ball at the end of a game. The Bama kicker left it short to Auburns best return man and the Auburn defense set up a nice wall which Davis used to run into history.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:26 pm to Tigerman97
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UGA- was luck unlike a Hail Mary where you are throwing into several receivers it was an under thrown ball that was "miraculously" tipped into the hands of a Auburn receiver. The ball literally floated into his hands over his shoulder.
Bama- wasn't luck but was very unusual and even more unlikely. Mainly because the situation will happen far less than a QB throwing a prayer ball at the end of a game. The Bama kicker left it short to Auburns best return man and the Auburn defense set up a nice wall which Davis used to run into history.
Well put.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:26 pm to bamasgot13
What's really crazy is that after reading your post, the kick 6 is the only one between two ranked teams (which is to say, two teams that are competitive talent-wise).
Fine it's not a miracle. It is extremely lucky - yes - perfectly executed, however it's not like you could replicate that if you replayed the scenario 1000 times.
Fine it's not a miracle. It is extremely lucky - yes - perfectly executed, however it's not like you could replicate that if you replayed the scenario 1000 times.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:28 pm to Crimson Legend
what if the kick would have been just barely over the cross bar and Davis jumped and blocked it...
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:28 pm to Hater Bait
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It was a terrible idea by Saban.
57 yard FG with a cold unproven
kicker. WTF?
Seriously, WTF was he thinking?
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:29 pm to NytroBud
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what if the kick would have been just barely over the cross bar and Davis jumped and blocked it...
Goaltending, of course.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:31 pm to ironsides
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however it's not like you could replicate that if you replayed the scenario 1000 times.
I disagree. While it is extremely unlikely that a tie game will come down to a field goal attempt from a distance where the kicker may not have enough leg to get it out of the end zone. It isn't unlikely that a defense filled with athletes many whom likely play on punt return 1st or 2nd team might out scheme several tubs of goo, 2 athletes, a holder and a kicker.
The best decision made that play was putting Auburn's best return man back. Smith was originally back and was switched after the TO.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:32 pm to Crimson Legend
He doesn't have those hops
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:32 pm to i am dan
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miracle play to me is something you may only see once or twice in a lifetime
I saw it twice in one season. OBJ did it for LSU against nobody st. The only reason the Auburn Kick6 a more memorable play is the situation. It was the Iron Bowl with the SEC West on the line.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:35 pm to Tigerman97
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I disagree. While it is extremely unlikely that a tie game will come down to a field goal attempt from a distance where the kicker may not have enough leg to get it out of the end zone. It isn't unlikely that a defense filled with athletes many whom likely play on punt return 1st or 2nd team might out scheme several tubs of goo, 2 athletes, a holder and a kicker. The best decision made that play was putting Auburn's best return man back. Smith was originally back and was switched after the TO.
Statistically speaking, you could replay that scenario 7049 times without repeating it once.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:37 pm to Tigerman97
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however it's not like you could replicate that if you replayed the scenario 1000 times.
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I disagree
It (a missed FG returned for TD) has only happened four times in 47 years. It has only happened in a competitive game - to WIN the game - ONCE ever. To say you disagree that you couldn't replicate it if you replayed the scenario 1000 times is to ignore that the scenario has existed greater than 1000 times, yet has only had THAT outcome once.
Great play. Among the rarest in college football history. To say otherwise is selective memory at its best.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:39 pm to ironsides
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Statistically speaking, you could replay that scenario 7049 times without repeating it once.
Who on the field makes the tackle for Alabama? Block Hubbard and it is a touchdown literally every time. Watch the wide view. When Davis cuts to the Auburn sideline around the 10 yard line the tubs of goo on the field necessary to protect for the kick take 4 full steps to shift their bodies and begin pursuit angles. Davis was going to score from the 10 yard line if not for the hustle of one guy it would have been untouched.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:45 pm to Tigerman97
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Tigerman97
Don't try and fight mathematics man
It happens once every 7050 games. In games where the teams are of equal caliber, it happens once every 14,100 games. The play would not unfold like that replay every time.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:47 pm to ironsides
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Don't try and fight mathematics man
Your premise is flawed. You are simply using games and not situations. See how many times it happened when the exact aspects of that situation exist.
The data says, 100% of the time.
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:48 pm to ironsides
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Statistically speaking, you could replay that scenario 7049 times without repeating it once.
I don't think you quite get statistics either.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:49 pm to i am dan
No. Odell Beckham had a kick 6 for LSU this year.
Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:53 pm to Tigerman97
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Your premise is flawed. You are simply using games and not situations. See how many times it happened when the exact aspects of that situation exist. The data says, 100% of the time.
Still trying to fight math and historical data I see. Your statement is absurd.Posted on 8/14/14 at 4:57 pm to ironsides
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Still trying to fight math and historical data I see. Your statement is absurd.
Serious question, have you ever taken a statistics or logic course?
It appears you haven't, but if you have, I question if you passed. if you did pass, I question the teacher.
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