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re: Was the Auburn Kick6 truly a "miracle" play?

Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:19 pm to
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:19 pm to
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How many times have you seen a field goal returned in the last seconds of a rivalry game to go to the conference championship?
How many times have you seen an Alabama Qb complete a 99 yard pass?? A fluke play indeed
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:19 pm to
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Gus paints his nails and pees sitting down


Not sure I want to know how you know that.
Posted by NickSabanRules
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:21 pm to
It was Murphy's Law for Bama in that game.
Posted by BaconKillz
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:21 pm to
Not completely unreasonable to see a 99 yard pass. But a game winning short field goal taken back? Nah, thats lightning striking twice. Auburn had to have some important things happen for that play to happen. They were relying on that kicker being short. So it wasn't 100% their call what happened on that play. It was a fluke.
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 2:23 pm
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:22 pm to
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It was Murphy's Law for Bama in that game.


Thought Bama only beats themselves...now its written in the Cosmos when Bama loses?
Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:22 pm to
"The better team ended up getting skull fricked by OU. You are a moron"

did that come from?

I didn't say anything about Bama being the "better team" anywhere in my post. I said Auburn was destined or meant to win that game with all the stops they made and Bama's blown opportunities.

does OU have to do with this thread?
Posted by CoMo_Tiger
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:23 pm to
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WDE24


I'm talking college, not the pros
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:23 pm to
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Not sure I want to know how you know that.


Posted by DBU
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:24 pm to
Yes

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Posted by BaconKillz
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:24 pm to
Read your message wrong. My bad bud.
Posted by IAmReality
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:24 pm to
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The "better team" ended up getting skull fricked by OU. You are a moron


Football doesn't work like this though. Winning or losing individual games don't by themselves "prove" anything. You have a different team every week, as Lou Holtz likes to say.

It's a matter of sample size really.

Auburn beating Alabama one game doesn't necessarily "prove" they were the better team. I mean, was LSU a better team than Auburn? I mean they beat em. And Alabama beat LSU, so?

You can see the issue.

Football isn't like baseball or basketball, you don't get to play a best of 7 to determine who's best.

If Alabama and Auburn played last year 100 times it's clear Alabama would win some and Auburn would win some, the question is who would win more? Well, we'll never know. They only played once, and that's the one that mattered.
Posted by ChexMix
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:24 pm to
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Missed 4 in that game.
Missed 3, 1 blocked.

Two of the misses were from 44 and 57 yards. Not good odds of making either and the blocked FG was a credit to the Auburn defender.

The only FG that was really missed that should have been made was the 33 yard FG
Posted by ironsides
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:24 pm to
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How many times have you seen a field goal returned in the last seconds of a rivalry game to go to the conference championship? It was lucky, but you need luck in sports, so it is what it is. A fluke play. I'd be surprised if I saw another one in the next 30 years to that degree.


Ok. General consensus on this thread is that it wasn't a miracle play. Let's look at what happened:

quote:

With seven seconds left in regulation and the score tied at 28, Yeldon made a long run as time expired. The play was reviewed from the replay booth, and one second was put back on the clock after the referees determined Yeldon had stepped out of bounds just before time expired.[133] Alabama then opted to attempt a game-winning 57-yard field goal, but chose freshman kicker Adam Griffith over Foster due to Foster's woes that day. Alabama failed its fourth field goal of the day with Griffith's attempt falling short, but Auburn's Chris Davis fielded it nine yards deep in his own end zone, and with no Crimson Tide skill players in his path (the field goal unit was made up almost entirely of offensive linemen), sprinted for a 109-yard touchdown return and a 34–28 Auburn win


WTF is WRONG with you guys?????

You won't see another play like that in a game of that magnitude in like 50 years!

Winner goes to the SEC championship with a chance to play for the national championship.

Loser gets season with some wins but no championship implications.

I have never seen a game where the FG gets returned for a TD with that much on the line. Yes, it's a fricking miracle. It's definately a miracle.

Criticize Saban all you want, but you guys would be shitting on him if it got blocked as well with a different personnel package with some skill players in it. How many times do you see a Saban coached team play with that lack of discipline on one play?

Put me in the miracle camp. Y'all are crazy.



This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 2:28 pm
Posted by WDE24
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:26 pm to
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I'm talking college, not the pros
100 yard kick returns happen multiple times every year in college football.


For those of you tempted to respond to this post out of context, go back and read in full context.
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:27 pm to
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Ok. General consensus on this thread is that it wasn't a miracle play.


WTF is WRONG with you guys?????

You won't see another play like that in a game of that magnitude in like 50 years!

Winner goes to the SEC championship with a chance to play for the national championship.

Loser gets season with some wins but no championship implications.

I have never seen a game where the FG gets returned for a TD with that much on the line. Yes, it's a fricking miracle. It's definately a miracle.

Criticize Saban all you want, but you guys would be shitting on him if it got blocked as well with a different personnel package. How many times do you see a Saban coached team play with that lack of discipline on one play?

Put me in the miracle camp. Y'all are crazy.


So it was a miracle due to circumstances and not the actual play? Got it.
Posted by Govt Tide
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:27 pm to
Posted by CoMo_Tiger
Columbia, MO
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:28 pm to
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It happened earlier in the SAME year:

Odell beckham, Jr. (LSU) did EXACTLY the same thing (return of missed long FG for 109 yd TD) against UAB last season.

Now, the stakes were NOWHERE near as high, etc. But, the same play did happen


I stand corrected haha but you have to admit that is a highly unlikely play, regardless of the teams or circumstance
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:28 pm to
Not really. LSU (Beckham) pulled the same thing against UAB.

Long kick, from the hash, weak kicker. If it is going to happen, those are the circumstances you'd look for. Just so happens those were the circumstances for both plays.

Honestly, I think it happens 2-3 times per season.
This post was edited on 8/14/14 at 2:30 pm
Posted by BaconKillz
Fayetteville
Member since Aug 2014
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:29 pm to
Sounds like Bama rational for a loss. I bet you chalk every Bama loss up as "the better team lost". Thats an excuse. Bama wasn't as good as a lot of people thought last year.
Posted by TxTiger82
Member since Sep 2004
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Posted on 8/14/14 at 2:29 pm to
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I stand corrected haha but you have to admit that is a highly unlikely play, regardless of the teams or circumstance


Unlikely, but significantly more likely given certain circumstances (long kick, from the hash, etc).
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