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re: UGA vs USCe on paper

Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:14 am to
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:14 am to
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What changed is obvious.


Sandstorm?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:16 am to
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Unfortunately for you South Carolina is not the same team either. That was two years ago. You now have a different qb, wr, ol, DL, lb, secondary and punt returner. UGA doesn't have to be better than they were 2 years ago, they just have to be better than you this year



Isn't that the beauty of College Athletics?
Posted by scrooster
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:28 am to
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Sandstorm?


Belief. Confidence. Expectations. Talent. Electricity. Pride. Excitement. The thrill of it all.

Once all of those things began to permeate the program, combined with the existing fan base that was already in place ... it was like mixing chocolate and peanut butter.

IMHO it was baseball, the national championship that was won by the baseball team ... that got everything started for the football team and it is continuing to spill over into the other sports. Men's and women's basketball are next.

That's what I meant when I typed, "what changed is obvious."

Call it a winning attitude or whatever. Before 2010 we always found ways to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory. Now, especially at home, we always expect to win, no matter what.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
Member since Feb 2011
15919 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 7:42 am to
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QB: Mason - Can he get the job done? Sure. Will he get the job done? I honestly think watching Mason play this year is going to make UGA fans who agged on Murray for years realize just how good he was. If Mason goes down, I tend to think you will see a QB rotation of both Bauta and Ramsey just because they both bring different things to the table.

Comparison with USCe: DRAW. I think Thompson has a lot of questions to answer as well. I would have said ADV USCe had Mason not gotten those two starts late last year. Both these guys have the problem that the previous QBs on their teams literally WILLED their teams to both victories and comebacks. We will see how much the offenses of the respective teams will believe in the new starters.


I disagree with this. Thompson has a lot more experience than Mason and, honestly, Mason has long way to go from his performances last year if UGA is going to be a contender. He will benefit from a good WR corps and a great running game but there was not really a single game last year where he looked comfortable in the pocket. Part of that might be the OL, which by all accounts is improved this year, but I think part of it was Mason just not being mentally ready and lacking self-confidence; he held the ball way too long last season.

As far as the rest goes:
RB-UGA has and edge. Davis and Gurley are both top notch RBs but I think UGA has better depth.

WR-I'd give the edge to UGA if for no other reason than the experience we have. A LOT of guys have starts under their belts due to injuries and, if we come into the USC game healthy, I think UGA has the overall better unit. If we're missing JSW (which we will be) and Mitchell, then I think it's a slight edge to USC.

OL- USC. No doubt. Probably one of the best units in the nation this year.

DL- Draw.

LB- UGA. Comparing 3-4 LB's to 4-2-5 LB's is apples to oranges, but either way you slice it, Wilson and Herrera are arguably the best inside duo in the SEC and Floyd/Jenkins/Carter are a fearsome group on the outside.

DB: Both are young groups but I'm giving the edge to USC just because we were so bad last year I'm hesitant to say anyone in FBS is worse than we are. Until I see improvement, I'm working under the assumption that we're still going to suck.

Kicking: I think UGA has the edge; Morgan is a boss.
Posted by Xtreambark17
Member since Jul 2014
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:24 am to
I agree with this.
Posted by winyahpercy
Georgetown, South Carolina
Member since Nov 2010
1383 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 8:25 am to
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Tybee Island > Sullivan's Island (though I dig Poe's Tavern ... a little)


what? first off, when you look up little brother syndrome in the dictionary, the first example is Savannah which throughout its history is always trying to be like Charleston. Tybee vs Sullivan isn't even comparable. Tybee is tourist trap w/ lowbrow amenities like hotels, piers, pavilions and putt-putt, like we have at Myrtle Beach. it's just a way to attract some low end yankee dollars, but we don't actually go there ourselves. we developed Hilton Head to fleece the yankees with more money to spend, and Kiawah to attract the real affluent yankees that you can actually tolerate. Sullivans is a sea island community with a history & culture all its own, more similar to St. Simons, which is a great place too.
Posted by bwood
Member since Jan 2013
438 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:06 am to
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crispy

Why do you say we'll be without JSW? He's looking at a 1 game suspension for the pot arrest last fall. You think even with an off week after Clemson, he still misses the SC game?
Posted by Cockeee Don
Myrtle Beach, SC
Member since Jul 2014
690 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:11 am to
I agree. The two teams are very similar. However, the matchups you had there didn't include the coaches, where I think SC has the advantage.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:21 am to
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I agree. The two teams are very similar. However, the matchups you had there didn't include the coaches, where I think SC has the advantage


That's a good point. We'll see what Pruitt does at UGA, if it's not that much better than what Grantham has done the past 3 seasons, it will be safe to say that Ward is better.
Posted by Cockeee Don
Myrtle Beach, SC
Member since Jul 2014
690 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:21 am to
As far as the QBs go, the better one will be the one that doesn't lose the game for his team with mistakes.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
Member since Sep 2012
22458 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:22 am to
quote:

what? first off, when you look up little brother syndrome in the dictionary, the first example is Savannah which throughout its history is always trying to be like Charleston. Tybee vs Sullivan isn't even comparable. Tybee is tourist trap w/ lowbrow amenities like hotels, piers, pavilions and putt-putt, like we have at Myrtle Beach. it's just a way to attract some low end yankee dollars, but we don't actually go there ourselves. we developed Hilton Head to fleece the yankees with more money to spend, and Kiawah to attract the real affluent yankees that you can actually tolerate. Sullivans is a sea island community with a history & culture all its own, more similar to St. Simons, which is a great place too.


+1 SC owns Quality Coastal Tourism North of Florida!
Posted by Cockeee Don
Myrtle Beach, SC
Member since Jul 2014
690 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:30 am to
One advantage that Carolina has in the game that's not talked about is that SC will have an extra game under their belt that Georgia won't. Early in the season, I think that it is better to play the 2nd game rather than having a week off which is really meaningless that early.
Posted by ugastudent
Member since Mar 2012
1338 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 9:36 am to
Unless somebody gets hurt or someone for UGA uses that week to heal. Its not like UGA is playing some no name scrub week 1 that will not have them ready to play in a big game. I actually look at as an advantage for UGA especially if Mitchell and JSW come back healthy for week 2
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 9:37 am
Posted by slayerxing
Gainesville
Member since Feb 2010
11045 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:09 am to
The South Carolina DL returns only FOUR SACKS (1 full sack, 6 assisted) from last year. That's it. This line as it exists now has produced basically nothing. And so anything you say about it now is a hope and a prayer based on expectations, recruiting rankings, and all the glowing reports you hear from practice. And believe me, everyone is hearing great things about practice right now.

The LB corp is legit. Against the run and pass. Very good players, should create havoc on everyone next year.

There are definite questions in the secondary, which returns very little experience, and the combined production of about 9 PBU and 2 INT. One player at UGA, Damian Swann, has almost as many pass break-ups last year (8) as USCe's entire returning secondary.

I still think that South Carolina has the better offensive line. But UGA's defense, as bad as it was, only allowed 3.7 yards per rush last year, while South Carolina's, which replaces their entire DL basically, gave up about 4.31 Yards per rush. I think that the game will be decided in that match up, and while USCe put up over 200 yards on the ground last year, I'm not sure if they will have the same success in 2014 without Connor Shaw and his 75 rushing yards on 16 attempts.

The biggest difference last year was Aaron Murray. USCe had no answer to his 309 yards and 4 TDs. I think that UGA will come back down to earth a bit in the passing department, because Mason is not Murray, and USCe will be a little weaker running, but overall, with all the coaching changes on defense, I think USCe, at home, will probably win as long as they don't get stoned on the LOS.


Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
2588 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:19 am to
Sullivan's Island...FTW.
Posted by gatorhata9
Dallas, TX
Member since Dec 2010
26174 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:23 am to
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We'll see what Pruitt does at UGA, if it's not that much better than what Grantham has done the past 3 seasons, it will be safe to say that Ward is better.



After one game?
Posted by WG_Dawg
Hoover
Member since Jun 2004
86446 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:26 am to
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Xtreambark17


why did you pick this as your username?
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23882 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:33 am to
quote:

Belief. Confidence. Expectations. Talent. Electricity. Pride. Excitement. The thrill of it all.

Once all of those things began to permeate the program, combined with the existing fan base that was already in place ... it was like mixing chocolate and peanut butter.


Your Sarcasm meter is broken...
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
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Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:35 am to
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slayerxing


Very decent observations.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23882 posts
Posted on 8/12/14 at 11:38 am to
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The biggest difference last year was Aaron Murray.


The biggest difference last year was special teams.

The onside kick that Richt called in the 1st qtr last year was the perfect call and amounted to an extra possession for the dogs. That along with a rare Connor Shaw fumble on the UGA 25 was the difference in the game.
This post was edited on 8/12/14 at 11:39 am
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