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re: Tunsil's Attorney Speaks
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:14 am to GurleyGirl
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:14 am to GurleyGirl
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This. Ole Miss fricked.
I have no idea if Ole Miss is fricked or not but the public nature of LT's disclosure will certainly set a new precedent in college sports. If Ole Miss gets off with little or no punishment, I suspect that college teams will no longer fear the consequences for getting caught in a "pay for play" scheme. OM has a current (2016 class) elite offensive lineman who had an interesting journey from his initial commitment to final LOI. The Tunsil situation has me wondering what happened with that recruitment. I was thinking he would land at Bama but in the end he signs with OM. Saban definitely wanted him and he was perfectly slotted to take over the long line of premier LT's at Bama. Saban doesn't lose many players who are that high on his board and this kid wasn't from MS. How did that happen?
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Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:22 am to SL Tiger
They say that when Saban found out that he wasn't coming he threw little Debbies cakes I'll over his office. POed to the max.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:27 am to Herman Frisco
Tunsil was going to Georgia, until he wasn't...
Don't think he had ever been to Oxford before signing.
BOL Mods said it was the dirtiest recruitment they had seen.
Don't think he had ever been to Oxford before signing.
BOL Mods said it was the dirtiest recruitment they had seen.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:28 am to NIH
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Tunsil is surrounded by amateurs
So now Jimmy Sexton is an amateur? Are you fricking serious? Maybe it all goes to show that even a veteran like Sexton can't fix stupid.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:31 am to SL Tiger
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I have no idea if Ole Miss is fricked or not but the public nature of LT's disclosure will certainly set a new precedent in college sports. If Ole Miss gets off with little or no punishment, I suspect that college teams will no longer fear the consequences for getting caught in a "pay for play" scheme.
Eh, I don't know, I am thinking that "LT's disclosure" will be explained away pretty easily. The only way, imo, that OM gets in trouble, is if the NCAA subpoenas text records of LT or the coach in question, and they find that those texts are 100 percent real deal Holyfield.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:35 am to Funky Tide 8
But they weren't texts. They were instagram messages right?
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:36 am to DynastyDawg
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But they weren't texts. They were instagram messages right?
Sorry...yes, you were right. I guess I meant subpoena for their respective instagram accounts?
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:41 am to GnashRebel
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I wonder if the future is criminals hacking social media then blackmailing people with what they find.
You're too late.
This has been happening to celebrities for a while now. Pervs are also doing it to young women.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:42 am to SL Tiger
The player had an agent. You fill in the blanks.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:46 am to 33inNC
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100% Sure this is an Alabama "fan", just like the a-hole that killed the trees.
Years of torture vs a quick death... It's a shame you don't realize the irony
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:47 am to Jebeco
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Clowns like him are the ones giving lawyers a bad name.
Yeah that's the reason... without this guy, lawyers would have the impeccable reputation they so deserve.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:50 am to 1loyalbamafan
i know the Farese family/firm. Know one of them very well. They are HYUUUUUUGE Ole Miss fans. HYUGE.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 11:10 am to DingLeeBerry
Looks like Harvey learned to use a computer during his jail time.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 11:16 am to JB Bama
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BOL Mods said it was the dirtiest recruitment they had seen.
And I honestly believe that Bama is probably in the best position to know about most of the questionable recruitments. I don't mean that in a bad way. I suspect that the kids/parents eventually make their way back to Saban and let him know what the going rate is. Saban may be willing to bend rules but he's smart enough to see the signs and back off when he has to.
Everything that beaver has been selling for the past 2 years has been about Ole Miss being relevant on a national level. He's been so thankful to the Elite 3 for taking a chance on OM 3 years ago. He wanted to sell that bullshite because he knows how much they've had to cheat to get there and it needed to stop before everything came crashing down. The problem for HF is that OM simply doesn't have anything that would lead a rational person to believe that they can sustain ~top 5 recruiting classes without cheating. Tell me what motivates any recruits final decision and I'll give you ~20 teams that would have more/better of whatever that is. If one would look at how far and how fast HF has risen to his current position...I'm impressed. He's either a really great guy or a really great con artist. That's becoming more obvious by the week.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 11:31 am to FishFearMe
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The player had an agent. You fill in the blanks.
LOL...I'm glad we can squash the aTm-LSU beef for a few days. On this shite-show, I'm also thinking that he must have gone back to aTm & maybe even UT at some point with a number. When I saw the pattern and LSU comes out of nowhere, I was definitely thinking that he was shopping deals. That became more obvious when the external crowd grew larger.
The fact is that "if" the weak NCAA does nothing, that spells doom for everyone except the schools with the largest revenues. That bodes well for both of us...especially you guys. What scares me is where this could lead for a school like Bama who could absolutely crush everyone else if they could operate without fear of consequence. They already dominate without reaching HF levels of cheating.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 11:31 am to WG_Dawg
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you can change the date on your phone and it will reflect in texts. Within 5 minutes I could reproduce literally exactly the same texts that were put up. And they don't have phone numbers or anythign with them, just names and time stamps. Easily changable.
Haven't seen anyone mention this, but couldn't any jackass submit a FOI request for the Ole Miss coaches phone records since they work at a public institution? If texts are real it doesn't look like they were really trying very hard to conceal anything, so I assume texts were made through official phone lines and not a private account acquired for the sole purpose of nefarious activities.
hat a freaking mess. Attorney is obviously a POS, but I agree the 'hacker' is a total low life coward POS as well in need of a solid country arse whoopin.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 11:36 am to tylerdurden24
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You have a set of texts validated by said individual as being real implicating two assistant ADs in the payment of said individual while enrolled as a student at ole miss.
All of this is in addition to the current investigation that had to do with said individual negotiating with agents while playing at ole miss.
So, you not only have impermissible benefits and impermissible contact with agents (which will almost undoubtedly result in the vacation of all of those wins ole miss had while Tunsil was there) but you also have institutional control issues and a possible cover up if Miller or farrar were ever interviewed and denied any wrongdoing.
The texts are more damning than the off-the-cuff admission IMO. Basically, if you could only have one, the texts are the one you cannot easily explain. They discuss time, amounts, use of the funds, two assistant ADs, and a seemingly regular payment plan that was screwed up with the light bill was so high. That basically leads the NCAA horse all the way to trough, now it is up to them to finalize it.
The agent aspect is quite comical to me as well. When you're being investigated for impermissible benefits and contact with agents while in school, you don't choose the same agent as your head coach.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 11:39 am to WG_Dawg
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you can change the date on your phone and it will reflect in texts. Within 5 minutes I could reproduce literally exactly the same texts that were put up. And they don't have phone numbers or anythign with them, just names and time stamps. Easily changable.
If you think the texts are fake I don't know what to tell you. That is an ELABORATE scam to say the least. The entire conversation reads almost exactly how you'd imagine something like that would go. If someone were to fake it they'd be much more forthcoming and straightforward IMO. To beat around the bush like they did in those texts is the give away to me, but there is still plenty there to go looking for the NCAA.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 11:39 am to thatthang
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but couldn't any jackass submit a FOI request for the Ole Miss coaches phone records since they work at a public institution? If texts are real it doesn't look like they were really trying very hard to conceal anything, so I assume texts were made through official phone lines and not a private account acquired for the sole purpose of nefarious activities.
imessages wouldn't be listed.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 11:41 am to slackster
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The entire conversation reads almost exactly how you'd imagine something like that would go
Lol...no it isn't.
I would never imagine that a player/recruit would ever go directly to a staff member for money.
College football is dirty as hell....but it isn't that fricking stupid.
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