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re: Tunsil's Attorney Speaks
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:29 am to DingLeeBerry
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:29 am to DingLeeBerry
lol wut. The only thing the hacker did was reveal the truth. Tunsil made some bad decisions and we're supposed to blame the guy who brought all of it to light? That doesn't make any sense.
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Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:31 am to WG_Dawg
Four guys that AU said had an axe to grind and no proof. A.) there are texts with Ole Miss officials for the world to see B.) Tunsil admitted it at a press conference
At the very least this slap in the face will make the NCAA look under every crevice in Oxford.
At the very least this slap in the face will make the NCAA look under every crevice in Oxford.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:32 am to Allyn McKeen
Not only are they in the clear, they're currently turning this social media attack into some sort of business venture opportunity
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:36 am to NIH
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A.) there are texts with Ole Miss officials for the world to see
you can change the date on your phone and it will reflect in texts. Within 5 minutes I could reproduce literally exactly the same texts that were put up. And they don't have phone numbers or anythign with them, just names and time stamps. Easily changable.
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B.) Tunsil admitted it at a press conference
As did the auburn players. In a TV special.
Fact is the NCAA can and will snoop around but unless they find definitive proof of money changing hands nothing will happen.
AJ got in jersey trouble only because they saw where the money went into his account. Gurley got in trouble because they had video evidence.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:40 am to WG_Dawg
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you can change the date on your phone and it will reflect in texts. Within 5 minutes I could reproduce literally exactly the same texts that were put up. And they don't have phone numbers or anythign with them, just names and time stamps. Easily changable.
But Tunsil admitted they were real. Not to mention that they'd be pretty clever fakes given the info held within and the alternating time stamps that would indicate a change in time zones (Tunsil is from the ET in Florida while ole miss is CT)
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As did the auburn players. In a TV special.
Difference is the auburn players had a plausible reason to fabricate stories because they had an axe to grind with the university. Tunsil is a case of a guy that admitted to something he didn't know he shouldn't have admitted to
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:42 am to tylerdurden24
Believe me, I want ole miss to get their comeuppance.
I'm just saying that based on what we all know about the NCAA's woeful incompetence, I won't be surprised if they get nothign other than losing a few scholarships.
I'm just saying that based on what we all know about the NCAA's woeful incompetence, I won't be surprised if they get nothign other than losing a few scholarships.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:43 am to DingLeeBerry
That is some top-notch righteous indignation.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:45 am to DingLeeBerry
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I haven’t been exposed to people like that. I’m exposed to people who commit murders and robberies. But, to me, people who do things like this are worse.”
This guy should get his arse kicked. Frickin clown.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:46 am to rebsfan10
I thought the timing of the exposure was below the belt. Maybe I am too soft, but he is just a kid (even if he is a very rich one now). Should have been the best night of his life. Kids are stupid, lord knows I was and thank God I was in college before everything could be instantly recorded. I acknowledge that there should be consequences to actions but I hate that everything has to be so public.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:50 am to WG_Dawg
This is what we know about the NCAA: as far as violations go, stuff related to academics is something they'll rattle their sabers over but really not give a shite about in the end. It's all in service of upholding the archaic and batshit insane amateurism model in a country renown for its capitalistic practices. Academics can support the amateurism mythos but they can't really hurt it. However, being compensated in any way while being labeled an amateur student athlete runs antithetical to what the NCAA believes and lives for. It's a threat to their money making model.
So, while the NCAA is certainly going to drag its feet and likely not do jack shite to a school like UNC, it is going to do everything short of levy the death penalty against ole miss (death penalty is off the table after SMU). While the end result doesn't reflect it, keep in mind that the NCAA was ready to bury Miami in the Everglades for the Shapiro stuff. In fact the only saving grace wound up being just how overzealous the investigators were to have a comprehensive case, resulting in a lot of illegally obtained evidence being thrown out and lessening the blow. Similarly, remember USCw which by most accounts received a much harsher punishment than was necessary for the Reggie bush scandal.
Moral of the story: the NCAA is going to be tripping over itself to white knight for its precious amateurism model in the face of blatant offenses committed in Oxford. Only saving grace fr ole miss will be if the NCAA trips so bad that it can get up
So, while the NCAA is certainly going to drag its feet and likely not do jack shite to a school like UNC, it is going to do everything short of levy the death penalty against ole miss (death penalty is off the table after SMU). While the end result doesn't reflect it, keep in mind that the NCAA was ready to bury Miami in the Everglades for the Shapiro stuff. In fact the only saving grace wound up being just how overzealous the investigators were to have a comprehensive case, resulting in a lot of illegally obtained evidence being thrown out and lessening the blow. Similarly, remember USCw which by most accounts received a much harsher punishment than was necessary for the Reggie bush scandal.
Moral of the story: the NCAA is going to be tripping over itself to white knight for its precious amateurism model in the face of blatant offenses committed in Oxford. Only saving grace fr ole miss will be if the NCAA trips so bad that it can get up
This post was edited on 4/29/16 at 9:53 am
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:50 am to madmaxvol
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It was actually found and released by the Dolphins...just so they wouldn't have to trade up to get him. Well played.
Not sure if you are joking but that thought has crossed my mind. Not specifically with the Tunsil situation but as a way to manipulate drafts. Is there a better way for a team sitting out of range on a premier prospect to have a shot at him? The day will come when an NFL team is proven to have manipulated the media in an effort to drop a prospect to their team.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:51 am to bamarep
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Hacked or not hacked, it was TUNSIL that made the statement about accepting money. IN PERSON. ON LIVE TV.
This. Ole Miss fricked.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:52 am to tylerdurden24
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being compensated in any way while being labeled an amateur student athlete runs antithetical to what the NCAA believes and lives for. It's a threat to their money making model.
manziel never got suspended and he was on video too.
We just need to accept the NCAA is a mess with seemingly no real SOP.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:53 am to WG_Dawg
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As did the auburn players. In a TV special.
I believe the statute of limitations had run out on just about all of them (if not all of them). Tunsil got there in 2013. This case is well within the NCAA's statute of limitations clause.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:53 am to tylerdurden24
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Even the NCAA couldn't screw this up
The only bright side in all this is only the NCAA can screw this up and they're greedy as shite on top of that.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:54 am to GurleyGirl
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This. Ole Miss fricked.
The bad thing for them is that their violations also now included improper benefits. Most of the previous stuff was dealing with academic eligibility issues.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:56 am to CNB
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What a ridiculous statement
It's from a lawyer so I'm assuming you're not surprised
Posted on 4/29/16 at 9:57 am to speckledtrout
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Farese is as slick as they come. He's the guy that defended the wife that shot her preacher husband in Florence, AL a few years back.
Every reasonably smart person should be insulted by this facially absurd statement.
Nothing slick about it.
This post was edited on 4/29/16 at 9:59 am
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:02 am to DingLeeBerry
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“I wouldn’t call it a hacker,” Farese said
Posted on 4/29/16 at 10:03 am to Whereisomaha
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What in the world. Between this statement and Sexton's I am lost on how these two have become so successful being so full of shite
i missed sexton's- what was it????
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