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re: Tunsil's Attorney Speaks
Posted on 4/29/16 at 11:43 am to thatthang
Posted on 4/29/16 at 11:43 am to thatthang
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Haven't seen anyone mention this, but couldn't any jackass submit a FOI request for the Ole Miss coaches phone records since they work at a public institution? If texts are real it doesn't look like they were really trying very hard to conceal anything, so I assume texts were made through official phone lines and not a private account acquired for the sole purpose of nefarious activities.
Maybe the "we need to meet" was to say..stop with your texting BS. Maybe the guy was ignoring LT and the only way to get him to respond was to send a text. It sure looked like the terms for the payments were being pushed by the LT family and his comments were very damning. The guy said...I have no way to handle additional expenses beyond what we agreed to!! That implies that an ongoing agreement was made involving a college athlete and a member of the OM program. I've never seen that before so the fight b/w the NCAA and OM will be on the legitimacy of those texts. If proven real...OM is definitely fricked.
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Posted on 4/29/16 at 11:43 am to SL Tiger
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he problem for HF is that OM simply doesn't have anything that would lead a rational person to believe that they can sustain ~top 5 recruiting classes without cheating. Tell me what motivates any recruits final decision and I'll give you ~20 teams that would have more/better of whatever that is. If one would look at how far and how fast HF has risen to his current position...I'm impressed. He's either a really great guy or a really great con artist. That's becoming more obvious by the week.
This is exactly what I have been saying. We all know everyone commits NCAA violations. Yes, even Vandy. Any reasonable person knows the T-town menswear asshat was certainly giving impermissible benefits. People very close to Auburn certainly paid for Cam and probably the HBO guys. The list goes on for all schools. But it has been pretty apparent that Ole Miss at some point maybe 5 years ago went completely rogue.
I actually think there is an unspoken Gentlemen's agreement (for lack of a better word) between coaches considering what is considered acceptable rule bending/cheating. With the total inexplicable rise to the top in their recruiting, Ole Miss just gave the appearance to all that they were changing the rules n a big way. They have stepped well beyond those norms putting them on everyone's crosshairs. I guess we'll see how it plays out.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 11:44 am to DingLeeBerry
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someone has attempted to destroy that.
If he is talking about the video....Tunsil did that to himself. I don't understand how someone can do stuff that is wrong, and the person that brings it to life is "twisted".
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“Why would one do that? Why would a person do that except there must be some huge animosity against him. I don’t know. I’m just not aware of people that are capable of such things.
Why would someone expect others to pay them millions of dollars while hiding the truth from them? The truth that would (obviously) affect their decision.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 11:50 am to bamarep
It would literally take LT saying "yes, i took money from the coaches at Ole Miss" for something to happen. Not just agreeing to a question.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 11:54 am to DingLeeBerry
But, is it true?
Sorry if I don't feel sorry for the payoff shite being exposed. Tunsil earned that ridicule. Shame on him!!!!!!!
Sorry if I don't feel sorry for the payoff shite being exposed. Tunsil earned that ridicule. Shame on him!!!!!!!
Posted on 4/29/16 at 11:57 am to pankReb
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Lol...no it isn't.
I would never imagine that a player/recruit would ever go directly to a staff member for money.
College football is dirty as hell....but it isn't that fricking stupid.
Do you believe they are fake - yes or no?
Posted on 4/29/16 at 11:57 am to Ironhead985
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It would literally take LT saying "yes, i took money from the coaches at Ole Miss" for something to happen. Not just agreeing to a question.
Not true at all. Agreement parallels statement.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 11:58 am to pivey14
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It would literally take LT saying "yes, i took money from the coaches at Ole Miss" for something to happen. Not just agreeing to a question.
Not true at all. Agreement parallels statement.
But does it when the person is unaware of the actual basis of the question?
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:01 pm to thatthang
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We all know everyone commits NCAA violations. Yes, even Vandy. Any reasonable person knows the T-town menswear asshat was certainly giving impermissible benefits. People very close to Auburn certainly paid for Cam and probably the HBO guys. The list goes on for all schools.
Sure, but for some reason, I can live with boosters getting in the way. I can even live with coaches and staff turning a blind eye to it all, but what irks me is the idea that multiple people on a staff would be complicit in the organizational structure of a pay for play scheme. Going through the school it self is just such a blatant slap in the face that I personally draw the line, and I'd do so for LSU as well.
$100 or $1000 handshakes to players/recruits? Whatever.
Assistant ADs doling out cash on a regular basis? You deserve to be punished.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:05 pm to Funky Tide 8
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But does it when the person is unaware of the actual basis of the question?
Can you prove this? Statement also outweighs implication.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:11 pm to pivey14
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But does it when the person is unaware of the actual basis of the question?
Can you prove this? Statement also outweighs implication.
I'd imagine that it'd be harder to prove that he did know, than to prove that he didn't know.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 12:22 pm to bamawriter
Farese is a great attorney and he is right, somebody, (His stepdad) really had it out for him.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 1:08 pm to slackster
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Sure, but for some reason, I can live with boosters getting in the way. I can even live with coaches and staff turning a blind eye to it all, but what irks me is the idea that multiple people on a staff would be complicit in the organizational structure of a pay for play scheme. Going through the school it self is just such a blatant slap in the face that I personally draw the line, and I'd do so for LSU as well.
$100 or $1000 handshakes to players/recruits? Whatever.
Assistant ADs doling out cash on a regular basis? You deserve to be punished.
I absolutely, 100% agree with your sentiment. I didn't quite spell it out but that's part of what I meant when I was saying they appear to have gone totally rogue: implementing a formal pay for play system administered by the coaches themselves is 1970/'80's level cheating. I think that is a pretty serious line to cross and I would imagine other coaches were pretty PO'd when/if they found out it was going on.
*All of the above is assuming the texts are real.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 1:20 pm to pankReb
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I would never imagine that a player/recruit would ever go directly to a staff member for money.
This is the standard assumption, at least in 2016.
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College football is dirty as hell....but it isn't that fricking stupid.
I think Ole Miss actually is, right now. I'm really not a troll but if you polled this board this past Monday what school in the SEC would most likely have such an operation going on, I think you would have received Ole Miss as the overwhelming favorite. I understand that perception, reality, and what can be proven are three very different things, but my point is this isn't that surprising (if true) to most who have been following Ole Miss recruiting the last few years. Now the spectacular (and cowardly) way in which it came out, now that was just absurd.
This post was edited on 4/29/16 at 1:27 pm
Posted on 4/29/16 at 1:40 pm to thatthang
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But it has been pretty apparent that Ole Miss at some point maybe 5 years ago went completely rogue.
Freeze just happens to go from HS coach to Ole Miss along with one of the top OL prospects in that recruiting cycle. His first position at OM is TE coach and recruiting coordinator. He leaves OM in 2007 and returns as Head Coach in 2011 without ever succeeding in an OC or HC position at a Power 5 school. He takes over a program with a recent history of losing and within a few years is pulling in 5* recruits from other parts of the country.
Nothing looks fishy about that story...right? HF knows what he is doing and I'd use the older Nkimdeche(?) brother as an example. I'd bet he overpaid that kid knowing what was at stake. He knew the path to getting his real target and I'd guess that Saban & Miles were not willing to take the older brother during the previous cycle. At the time, I thought that HF got lucky as the older bro proved to be much better than anyone expected. After HF got RN's LOI, I felt that he schooled CNS & CLM on the eval and the recruitment of both.
I can't imagine that future 5* recruits will flock to that campus knowing the cloud of suspicion surrounding HF & OM. I'm wondering what will happen to last years class. How are the rules stated with regard to this situation and new recruits?
Posted on 4/29/16 at 1:44 pm to DingLeeBerry
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I haven’t been exposed to people like that. I’m exposed to people who commit murders and robberies. But, to me, people who do things like this are worse.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 2:14 pm to thatthang
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People very close to Auburn certainly paid for Cam
Link?
Posted on 4/29/16 at 2:17 pm to DingLeeBerry
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“I would call it a coward.
He's so triggered. The Ole Miss melt is coming and I can't wait.
Posted on 4/29/16 at 2:20 pm to CCTider
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Leave it to a lawyer to burn the sympathy card like it's a cross in Oxford.
BOOM!!!
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