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re: Tiered rankings of College Football Jobs

Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:38 am to
Posted by 3morereps
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:38 am to
Mizzou too high
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:39 am to
quote:

Now, Butch Jones sucks, but this program is in an exponentially better position than it was 3 years ago.


But are you "Tier 1?"





Or should I say Tear 1?
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:40 am to
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Hell, after Fulmer "resigned", we could have had Patterson, but we went with Kiffin. Dumbest move Hamilton ever made. Now, Butch Jones sucks, but this program is in an exponentially better position than it was 3 years ago.


Agreed. Also when we hired Dooley it was well known Sumlin was begging for the job, worked out well for him not to get it, but it just shows that our AD was a moron.

Also when Butch Jones inevitably gets let go either after next year or in a few years, the program will make a tier 1 hire at that point.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
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Member since Aug 2011
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:40 am to
You can't be a tier 1 job if a coach leaves your school for a better job. So Tennessee isn't a tier 1 job.
Posted by crispyUGA
Upstate SC
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:40 am to
Honestly, with the money and facilities that USC now possess, they're a solid tier 2 school.
Posted by CockInYourEar
Charlotte
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:42 am to
quote:

Tier 1

quote:

Tennessee

Wasn't Butch Jones y'all's 6th choice?
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:42 am to
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Also when we hired Dooley it was well known Sumlin was begging for the job, worked out well for him not to get it, but it just shows that our AD was a moron.




Hell, Cutcliff would have taken the job, in a heartbeat. Hamilton showed a complete lack of respect for him, and Kippy.


frick Hamilton
Posted by Lonnie Utah
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:42 am to
quote:

Honestly, with the money and facilities that USC now possess, they're a solid tier 2 school.


I'm good with that.
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:42 am to
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One of your tier 1 schools is distinctly different from the others


if you're a coach, you don't GAF about if the team has won a title in the last decade...that's for fans.

If you're a potential coach, you're looking at:

-access to good talent
-money
-facilities
-tradition/prestige
-what you have as a starting point to work with (is the cupboard empty or stocked)
-the town/city for purposes of living and raising a family


UGA has all of those, so the fact we haven't won a title recently means exactly nothing to a potential head coach.
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:43 am to
This was my thought as well as he describes a tier 1 job as a program a coach would never leave under normal circumstances.

I guess he views TN ever choosing to actually hire Kiffin and him getting a job at another tier 1 school where he had an extensive history as an unusual circumstance .
Posted by Ericvol2096
Charleston, SC
Member since May 2013
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:44 am to
I think 4th if I recall correctly. (Unless you count GRUUUUUUUUUUUDEN).

Jimbo
I'm a Man I'm 40
Strong
Butch
This post was edited on 10/14/15 at 9:45 am
Posted by StarkRebel
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:45 am to
Tennessee fans already ready for Toffseason
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:47 am to
quote:

But are you "Tier 1?"



With Hart as the AD? Meh, probably not. But we're high tier 2, now. We weren't 3 years ago, we were close to tier 4.



quote:

Or should I say Tear 1?


Your GOAT team lost to Butch Jones, BUTCH JONES FOR frick'S SAKE.
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60152 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:48 am to
quote:



if you're a coach, you don't GAF about if the team has won a title in the last decade...that's for fans.

If you're a potential coach, you're looking at:

-access to good talent
-money
-facilities
-tradition/prestige
-what you have as a starting point to work with (is the cupboard empty or stocked)
-the town/city for purposes of living and raising a family


UGA has all of those, so the fact we haven't won a title recently means exactly nothing to a potential head coach.


UGA wasn't the school I was referring to. It's been like 9 years since Tennessee had an 8 win season. The fact that they've been pretty awful over the last 10 or so years makes them very different from the other schools they're listed with
Posted by WG_Dawg
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:49 am to
At this point I just assume everone is talking crap about uga.

my bad.
Posted by Lonnie Utah
Utah!
Member since Jul 2012
23942 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:50 am to
quote:

Your GOAT team lost to Butch Jones, BUTCH JONES FOR frick'S SAKE.


Why do you think I hate ya'll soooo much? (And I spent time post grad at UT Knoxville to boot....)
This post was edited on 10/14/15 at 9:51 am
Posted by bigDgator
Dallas, TX
Member since Oct 2008
41320 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:50 am to
quote:

frick Hamilton


Then y'all go and hire spanky hart. So can't hire a decent AD, can't hire a decent HC. Must be the prez. Need to get the pitchforks and torches after his arse.
This post was edited on 10/14/15 at 9:51 am
Posted by ShaneTheLegLechler
Member since Dec 2011
60152 posts
Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:52 am to


And you could relay some of your points to Tennessee but I think it's become obvious over the last few coaches that it isn't that easy of a school to win at. Also the fact that Kiffin left for another college job is a strike against it
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:52 am to
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Then y'all go and hire spanky hart. So can't hire a decent AD, can't hire a decent HC. Must be the prez. Need to get the pitchforks and torches after his arse.





As soon as that brick shipment comes in, that motherfricker is done, it's over.
Posted by TheDarrell McSteal
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Posted on 10/14/15 at 9:52 am to
quote:

I think 4th if I recall correctly. (Unless you count GRUUUUUUUUUUUDEN).

Jimbo
I'm a Man I'm 40
Strong
Butch


I don't think Tennessee ever offered Jimbo or Gundy IIRC.
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