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re: Thoughts on Vols claiming 1956 National Title?
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:38 pm to boxedlunch
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:38 pm to boxedlunch
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Both of them count them because Alabama does.
Except they don't count 1941.
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Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:52 pm to RollTide1987
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For one, you insinuate that they didn't always vote for a champion after the bowls had been played.
Dude, you just proved you "studied" nothing. Whatever you're looking at has left your education lacking. The FWAA took their vote before the bowls in 1954. Don't pretend you know anything if you are going to argue that.
Also, articles written in the 60s clearly state that the FWAA was not an after thought. Of course, you probably thought Bear Bryant is full of crap too because he said it as well.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:53 pm to AlabamaAlum07
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Except they don't count 1941.
First of all, it's not "they" it's "he", and why he doesn't keep to his own stated criteria, I'm not sure. Probably as ashamed of it as most other Alabama fans are as well.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 9:57 pm to spiderman
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Did they finish #1 in either of the two major polls (AP or UPI). If not, then not a legit championship.
Are you sure about that? USC is the AP national champion of the 2003 and 2004 season.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:10 pm to boxedlunch
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The FWAA took their vote before the bowls in 1954.
It took you a while to catch that. Were you looking on Wikipedia this whole time?
Bottom line. Who cares? One year out of 50. The FWAA has always been a distant third to the AP/UPI. And now that it technically no longer exists, it has reduced itself to a status bordering on useless.
This post was edited on 5/11/15 at 10:12 pm
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:11 pm to TexAgChill
The "poll era" ended with the advent of the BCS.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:25 pm to RollTide1987
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It took you a while to catch that. Were you looking on Wikipedia this whole time?
Took me a while? I told you they weren't first post. I brought it up. What are you talking about.
If you think wikipedia is where to get information, no wonder you're clueless.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:26 pm to RollTide1987
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The FWAA has always been a distant third to the AP/UPI.
Again, you're full of crap.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:51 pm to boxedlunch
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First of all, it's not "they" it's "he", and why he doesn't keep to his own stated criteria, I'm not sure. Probably as ashamed of it as most other Alabama fans are as well.
Multiple sites = they.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 10:52 pm to Serraneaux
Go for it.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:03 pm to AlabamaAlum07
'He'. One site got it from the other.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:22 pm to rockytop627
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Please tell me how a Bammer can honestly say this with a straight face.
Are you shitting me? Tennessee has far more ridiculous claims than Alabama and I don't know why they're so frequently overlooked... by everyone else's logic, your only legit title is 1998:
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n 1938, Tennessee went 11-0 and won the Orange Bowl, yet did not finish as #1 in either the AP or UPI poll. They did finish #1 in several other polls, like Houlgate, Dunkel, and Billingsley. These are some of the very same "retroactive" polls that are used as ammunition to discredit Alabama's titles. TCU was also undefeated and won the AP title.
In 1940, TN went 10-1 and LOST in the Sugar Bowl. Losing in a bowl game has widely been used as a means of discrediting Alabama's claimed titles, but we see here that TN uses the same system. Tennessee's national title is based on their recognition by Dunkel and Williamson, NOT the AP or UPI. Minnesota and Stanford were also BOTH UNDEFEATED in the 1940 season.
In 1950, Tennessee went 11-1, which was the same record that Kentucky had that year, though Tennessee did beat Kentucky. They did, however, lose to a Mississippi State team with a losing record. Oklahoma also had 1 loss and was awarded BOTH the AP and UPI titles, but Tennessee claims this one anyway.
In 1951, Tennessee (10-1) won the AP title, despite the fact that Michigan State AND Maryland were both undefeated and untied. Georgia Tech and Illinois were also both undefeated, though each team had a tie. So, among the 5 teams that claim some form of a national title in 1951, Tennessee was the only team with a loss.
In 1967, Tennessee went 9-2 and lost in the Orange Bowl. USC and Oklahoma were both 10-1, and USC claimed BOTH the UPI and AP titles. In the Orange Bowl, the Volunteers faced Oklahoma and lost. So, despite finishing with 2 losses and losing to a team with a better record (remind anyone of 'Bama in 1941?), Tennessee claims a title for 1967.
Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:28 pm to Serraneaux
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Sure, Tennessee lost the bowl game,
LSU can claim the 2011 natty!!!!
order restored.Posted on 5/11/15 at 11:44 pm to JackVincennes
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t still baffles me how the greatest southern football program in history just started "claiming" 5 national championships because their preacher-SID during the Perkins era decided to add them. I've always thought it was beneath the program but I guess not.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 12:02 am to BradPitt
You, of course, can come up with newspaper articles for 1930 and 1934 as well, or a post-bowl 1926 the other years that Alabama fans claim the Rose Bowl was for the title?
This post was edited on 5/12/15 at 12:07 am
Posted on 5/12/15 at 5:36 am to boxedlunch
Posted on 5/12/15 at 7:02 am to BradPitt
This meme is tired and sad, just shut the frick up. The only one we have no business claiming is 67, stop being a jealous bitch.
I'm claiming 1939 and 1956, just because of your countiness.
I'm claiming 1939 and 1956, just because of your countiness.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 7:30 am to Serraneaux
Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:00 am to AlabamaAlum07
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The pic is shortly after winning the 1935 Rose Bowl.
By the 1935, the Rissman trophy had ceased to be for the national championship and instead went to the Rose Bowl winner.
Posted on 5/12/15 at 8:38 am to BradPitt
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In 1951, Tennessee (10-1) won the AP title, despite the fact that Michigan State AND Maryland were both undefeated and untied. Georgia Tech and Illinois were also both undefeated, though each team had a tie. So, among the 5 teams that claim some form of a national title in 1951, Tennessee was the only team with a loss.
Since Tennessee's one loss was in the Sugar Bowl after the polls declared their champion, then I guess we can take away from this that you believe Alabama's 1964 and 1973 titles are bogus.
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