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Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:41 pm to thunderbird1100
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:41 pm to thunderbird1100
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NFL talent
Whoa, there hotrod. You corn dogs can't have it both ways. Either we have talent...or you don't care as much as us in our matchup/you guys are beat up by Bama/it's cold in Fayetteville/yall have a letdown because your championship is unattainable....
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Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:42 pm to thunderbird1100
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If you're okay with losing to Toledo and Texas Tech, keep Bert there forever by all means.
You're right, I am okay with losing to them. I'm glad you were able to correctly interpret my comments and come to that conclusion.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:43 pm to Snizzzo
Yea - loosing to Toledo and Texas Tech last year, at home, is just bad. That team should have been a Top 15 type team and won 10 games.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:43 pm to Porcine Human
Yeah . It was so horrible we were in the top 4 with back to back 11 wins.
Always an excuse with BB suporters. Always next year. The new cry is it might take 5-7 years. Your coach will have a worse record than Nutt when he is fired. How's that feel. You triggered bro?
Always an excuse with BB suporters. Always next year. The new cry is it might take 5-7 years. Your coach will have a worse record than Nutt when he is fired. How's that feel. You triggered bro?
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:43 pm to Snizzzo
Can't imagine anyone around here is seriously advocating for y'all to ditch Bert.
If he wins 7-9 games a season at Arkansas, I have to think he stays quite comfortable.
If he wins 7-9 games a season at Arkansas, I have to think he stays quite comfortable.
This post was edited on 8/18/16 at 2:44 pm
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:44 pm to Snizzzo
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Whoa, there hotrod. You corn dogs can't have it both ways. Either we have talent...or you don't care as much as us in our matchup/you guys are beat up by Bama/it's cold in Fayetteville/yall have a letdown because your championship is unattainable....
Whao there, where did I say you had NFL talent on LSU or Bama's level?
The last 2 years you've had the most players drafted since 2008. that's pretty good in Arkansas' book. A completely mediocre QB for you played like Eli Manning his last season and you still only managed to win 8 games. You guys blame losing a couple guys to injury like Williams and a WR yet your offense actually IMPROVED quite a bit from 2014 to 2015.
Maybe, again, just dont herp a derp against the teams you should readily beat like Toledo and Texas Tech.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:46 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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It's year 4 now. The excuses are over.
eh, I don't really think they're making excuses at the moment, just pointing out the situation he inherited. Look what he's done:
2013: 3-9, zero notable wins
2014: 7-6, beat TT, Ole Miss, LSU, Texas
2015: 8-5, beat UT, Auburn, Ole Miss, LSU
They are certainly trending up.
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Bert needs to do more than lose early then win a few late and go 8-5. Or, he can keep doing that and Arkansas can be satisfied with it.
It's arkansas...8-5 and beating LSU and Auburn is a good season. Aside from Petrino's 2 year stretch in 10 and 11, since 2000 they've averaged abotu 7 or 8 wins a year.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:47 pm to WG_Dawg
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It's arkansas...8-5 and beating LSU and Auburn is a good season.
not really
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:48 pm to WG_Dawg
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It's arkansas...8-5 and beating LSU and Auburn is a good season
Except they were winning more than this under Petrino, and trended "up" much quicker.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:48 pm to SummerOfGeorge
It was. We had some tough breaks, but those weren't good looks. Toledo was a 10 win team and won their bowl against a ranked team, but we admittedly weren't prepared. Even though we outgained them by 200+, we bogged down in the red zone and couldn't execute our bread and butter.
Tech was a bad matchup at that time, and though they weren't as talented, they gave our defense fits. We couldn't stop em....
Tech was a bad matchup at that time, and though they weren't as talented, they gave our defense fits. We couldn't stop em....
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:51 pm to Russvegas Dan
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Williams was still drafted ahead of Collins despite missing the entire year injured.
But he was drafted by Rex Ryan and company. Does that really count?
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:51 pm to mmjones87
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Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:52 pm to WG_Dawg
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eh, I don't really think they're making excuses at the moment, just pointing out the situation he inherited. Look what he's done: 2013: 3-9, zero notable wins 2014: 7-6, beat TT, Ole Miss, LSU, Texas 2015: 8-5, beat UT, Auburn, Ole Miss, LSU They are certainly trending up.
I agree - Bert has done a solid job. They should now be ready to roll every year with their system. My point was more that the time for articles about the initial phase should be coming to an end.
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It's arkansas...8-5 and beating LSU and Auburn is a good season. Aside from Petrino's 2 year stretch in 10 and 11, since 2000 they've averaged abotu 7 or 8 wins a year.
I don't think Arkansas people would agree with that (whether they should or not is a different story).
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:53 pm to thunderbird1100
Didn't say u said we had NFL talent like LSU and Bama. We do, however, have much more talent than most LSU fans want to admit.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:56 pm to Snizzzo
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Didn't say u said we had NFL talent like LSU and Bama. We do, however, have much more talent than most LSU fans want to admit.
It would be really actually good in a conference like the Big XII, it just isn't impressive in the SEC because you have teams who have way way more players get drafted. It's a league full of elite talent, so "good/solid" talent gets lost in the shuffle.
Considering how strong the SEC West when Petrino was here makes his accomplishments even that much more notable IMO. It's not easy to win on this side of the division with the pure amount of talent alone. Took Ole Miss to start buying some 5-stars to make some noise again.
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Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:57 pm to notabertfan
Posted on 8/18/16 at 2:59 pm to thunderbird1100
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Except they were winning more than this under Petrino
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Aside from Petrino's 2 year stretch in 10 and 11, since 2000 they've averaged abotu 7 or 8 wins a year.
Arkansas's records since 2000:
6-6
7-5
9-5
9-4
5-6
4-7
10-4
8-5
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5-7
8-5
10-3
11-2
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4-8
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3-9
7-6
8-5
Not counting Bret's 3 seasons, Arkansas has averaged 7.3 wins a year this century and that's including the petrino years.
To say that arkansas winning 8 or 9 and beating a few rivals is a good year isn't unheard of.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:01 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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don't think Arkansas people would agree with that (whether they should or not is a different story).
I bet not a single one would, but that's just how I feel. Obviously, as a fan, you want 12 or 13 or more wins every year, I mean we're fans you want to win as much as possible.
I'm just saying realistically, looking at arkansas as a program historically and over the past 15 years, winning 8/9 and taking down some of the big boys is a good year.
Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:03 pm to SummerOfGeorge
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Yea - loosing to Toledo and Texas Tech last year, at home, is just bad.
Almost as bad as repeatedly misspelling "losing."
Posted on 8/18/16 at 3:03 pm to WG_Dawg
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Not counting Bret's 3 seasons, Arkansas has averaged 7.3 wins a year this century and that's including the petrino years.
Schedule expanded to 12 games from 11 in 2006. So the first 6 of those years have 1 less win than they normally would have (SEC teams just added a creampuff to the schedule).
So they're probably averaging close to 8 wins when you factor that in, so they basically had a very average season last year.
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