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re: The "Saban (gets beat by fast teams) Rule" is essentially dead

Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:26 pm to
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:26 pm to
I am a little confused about your thread title. Since Saban "gets beat by fast teams", and your team has never beaten Saban, are you assuming that your team will eventually improve (drastically) and you might win a game against Bama, or are you just excited that some other teams will continue to be successful against us?

Or is the view from so far behind us just confusing and you're not sure what to think?

Posted by allin2010
Auburn
Member since Aug 2011
18151 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:27 pm to
Best line in the article explains why most non-Bama, non-Bama fans are opposed...
From the Charman, need to have more coaches involved from both sides and medical people present before you push through a rule..

"I think what you learn, especially after going through this, is I think you need to have more and more coaches involved in terms of possibilities," Calhoun said. "Probably the other thing too is just, if it really is a safety matter, to have more medical people present too."
Posted by Phat Phil
Krispy Kreme
Member since May 2010
7373 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:27 pm to
Saban is a bitch
Posted by AdamsHouseCat
Member since Aug 2011
436 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:28 pm to
I am not at all certain this is over yet.

Troy Calhoun's statement's have been conflicting, and clearly he is just the front man (and fall guy) for those behind the curtain.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24923 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:28 pm to
quote:

then you are pretty clueless


Good discussion, salient points you make.

I'll let you carry on.
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:30 pm to
quote:

Phat Phil


Whose alter are you?
Posted by skrayper
21-0 Asterisk Drive
Member since Nov 2012
30875 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:39 pm to
quote:

that looks like a lot of moral victories, yall should just claim the W's


I never claimed anything of the sort. Seriously, take off the orange-tinted glasses for just a sec and set down the officially sanctioned, ITAT-licensed tinfoil hat for a moment.

My point was that the offense we were up against had less to do with those three losses than our own offense and special teams either:
A.) Failing
B.) Being stopped by the opposing team's defense

Either way you cut it, we lost, but I was simply demonstrating that our defense did ENOUGH to win those games. Was it dominate? No, but it did enough.
Posted by Crimson Legend
Mount St Gumpus
Member since Nov 2004
15478 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:44 pm to
you're right, of course, skrayper. It is hilarious how much all this is blown out of proportion.

If the UGA defensive back knocks down the pass instead of tipping it into the aubie's hands, would it have proven that the HUNH sucks and they should abandon it?
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:50 pm to
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exhausted defensive players lose form and technique and are more likely to injure themselves or an offensive player


have better conditioned players?
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24923 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:50 pm to
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Either way you cut it, we lost, but I was simply demonstrating that our defense did ENOUGH to win those games. Was it dominate? No, but it did enough.


I think this was particularly true in the 2012 A&M game and 2013 Auburn game. For good portions of both of those games, the defense played pretty well. Not great, but we are talking about two pretty great offenses they were going up against and they somewhat held them in check relative to their normal numbers. For decent portions of the game, those offenses were being stopped and Alabama's offense was being given multiple opportunities to get control of the game and could not do it.

I thought in both games that it was Alabama's lack of offensive or special teams execution combined with the other team's good defensive play (which was not really the strength of either '12 A&M or '13 Auburn) that was more to blame for the loss.

The Oklahoma game was kind of disaster all around. Alabama moved the ball but 5 TOs? Come on. And OU's QB was just torching Bama's DBs all night long.
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
30875 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:51 pm to
quote:

If the UGA defensive back knocks down the pass instead of tipping it into the aubie's hands, would it have proven that the HUNH sucks and they should abandon it?


Same way that if Cade Foster goes 1-3 in FG attempts that day, suddenly the HUNH and Spread offenses are "horrible" because Auburn lost all three regular season games to Pro Set offenses.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:55 pm to
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and missed 3 FGs


get a better kicker?
Posted by stat19
Member since Feb 2011
29350 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:00 pm to



You people are laughable.

I've yet to see anyone post real reason why this rule will pass - hint it has nothing to do with Saban.
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:01 pm to
quote:

Either way you cut it, we lost, but I was simply demonstrating that our defense did ENOUGH to win those games


If they did enough why did they give up largely more than their average on the season. Seems to me the offense did fairly on par with their seasons and the defense vastly under performed in those games

Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:08 pm to
quote:

get a better kicker?


The first thing Saban recruited when he was hired at UTx was a great kicker. Seems he learned from his mistakes.
Posted by parkjas2001
Gustav Fan Club: Consigliere
Member since Feb 2010
45000 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:14 pm to
Mark Richt on proposed substitution rule: " I personally don’t think it’s a health issue." Wonders if there’s any hard evidence.
Posted by TheDoc
doc is no more
Member since Dec 2005
99297 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:18 pm to
he might want to focus on settling on a qb, worrying about his own offense, and finding a kicker that can kick.
Posted by MagicCityBlazer
Member since Nov 2010
3686 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:18 pm to
quote:

that looks like a lot of moral victories


Auburn is the greatest team of all time. Bama should just feel stupid for it taking a series of unlikely events to lose to that obviously superior team.

The fact that the obviously superior AU team won on the last play in such an unusual way is a testament to how fantastic AU is. Never before has a team gone All-In and won like that.

Obviously the 50/50 calls that went AU's way were justified. To think otherwise would be silly and jingoistic.

All hail our last play dominating overlords who are just better at everything.

Similarly, Malzahn heckling the refs while a bama player was injured is explainable. It was the height of class and sportsmanship.

quote:

Same way that if Cade Foster goes 1-3 in FG attempts that day, suddenly the HUNH and Spread offenses are "horrible" because Auburn lost all three regular season games to Pro Set offenses.


You misunderstand comrade.

Auburn didn't come on the razors edge of losing! They were setting it all up! Don't you know it was a part of the family's plan?
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 1:21 pm
Posted by cyogi
Member since Feb 2009
5137 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:19 pm to
quote:

More plays = More possible injuries.

More players blitzing = QB more prone to injury

Limit the number of D rushers to protect the QB.
Posted by NYCAuburn
TD Platinum Membership/SECr Sheriff
Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 1:21 pm to
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MagicCityBlazer


lord the melt is still happening, my cup hath runneth over with salty tears
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