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re: The "Saban (gets beat by fast teams) Rule" is essentially dead

Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:57 am to
Posted by chattabama
12essee
Member since Jun 2012
19315 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:57 am to
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I'm not sure if they were at the time or not however I am sure that they all run fast offenses and Nicholas Saban sees that he's about to have his totem fall off the pole.


What rule change would OM need to start competing for the SEC? Allowed to have 12 men on the field against top tier competition?
Posted by rangers911
Member since Jun 2009
5159 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 11:57 am to
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Until next year, when it will pass


Not likely at all. He may get some sort of rule where he can sub after X number of downs but even that's a stretch. This rule as it is written is toast.

I also expect a rule to be proposed for player safety that if a player must be helped off the field they must sit X plays as well. Due to the fact they can't be properly evaluated within a single play and be back on the field the next play.
Posted by NELA LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2011
1167 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:03 pm to
As an LSU fan, I say "good riddance", the whole thing was contrived from the start. Run the HUNH or not, who cares? The whole thing smacks of the opposition to other changes to the game throughout history. Hell, at one time the forward pass was viewed as a demonic abortion by some.
Posted by skrayper
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:04 pm to
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Why is this the Saban rule? He was simply asked to speak about it. Shouldnt it be the Bielema rule?


Saban is the target because no one is scared of Bielema. Except maybe being sat on by him.
Posted by jtran1988
Corndog U
Member since Oct 2008
5321 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:05 pm to
Doesnt 2 minute drills thrive off of hunh anyway???
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70903 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:05 pm to
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More plays = More possible injuries


More power cleans= Stronger athletes who could injure someone

Posted by volhound
Member since Sep 2009
852 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:07 pm to
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Games should only last 1 quarter.


And no physical contact....
Posted by narddogg81
Vancouver
Member since Jan 2012
19694 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:07 pm to
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You lost to Oklahoma, Auburn, and last year to A&M. 100% of your losses over the past two seasons come from fast teams
if you were not retarded you would realize that those 3 losses were not about hunh. The a&m trouble was almost 100% due to manziel, not defensive scheme. We normally had the right play in, he would just make something out of nothing. The auburn loss this year had more to do with our own 3rd down trouble on offense, poor field goal kicking, and a bad offensive strategy than Auburns offense. The Oklahoma loss was petty much 100% due to offensive miscues, namely 5 turnovers. You don't turn the ball over like that and beat a top 10 team. We were weaker this year on d than past years but we still were one of the best in the country and were plenty good to repeat. We should have used the auburn offensive game plan at Oklahoma and the Oklahoma offensive game plan at auburn. Auburns pass d was hot garbage yet we kept trying to run right through the best part of their team, the dline. Oklahoma could not stop our rushing attach to save their lives so of course we throw it at then and turn it over a bunch.
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 12:11 pm
Posted by TreyAnastasio
Bitch I'm From Cleveland
Member since Dec 2010
46759 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:08 pm to
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And no physical contact....


If the HUNH crowd gets their way, this will be reality.
Posted by tider04
North Carolina
Member since Oct 2007
5606 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:09 pm to
25-0
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24923 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:12 pm to
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The proposed rule was not to lower the total number of plays


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except, you know, what everyone else has stated


I've heard plenty of discussion about the fact that a miniscule amount of plays are run before 10 second from the last play ended and that, therefore, the proposed rule would have almost no effect on the pace at which even HUNH teams play or the total plays of the game. So, I don't know what you are talking about with respect to your comment. The rule is basically about defensive substitution, not slowing down the pace because very few plays over the course of an entire season actually go at a faster pace than the rule allows.
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24923 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:12 pm to
Duplicate post.
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 12:16 pm
Posted by skrayper
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Member since Nov 2012
30875 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:14 pm to
Our three losses were to spread teams, true...

We outgained Auburn, and missed 3 FGs before the one that fell short. That had a lot more to do with it.

We outgained Texas A&M, but had three turnovers including one at the goal line that would've put us ahead, probably for the win.

We outgained Oklahoma, but had five turnovers and a missed FG - a game we lost by two scores.

Our offense and special teams, or to be fair, Texas A&M's and Oklahoma's defenses as well as Auburn forcing us to FG attempts, had more to do with it. Sure, we gave up points, but we held AU and Texas A&M's offenses to under 30 points each. That should have been enough to win both games if our offense had made its normal output.
Posted by SamGinn Cam
Okinawa
Member since Jul 2013
2807 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:14 pm to
Sportsnation ESPN Poll:

If a study emerged showing high-tempo offenses increased the risk of injury, would you be in favor of a rule to slow down college football?

12% Yes
37% Yes, but only if the risk was massively increased
51% No

(Total votes: 45,248)
Posted by elposter
Member since Dec 2010
24923 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:17 pm to
quote:

Sportsnation ESPN Poll:

If a study emerged showing high-tempo offenses increased the risk of injury, would you be in favor of a rule to slow down college football?

12% Yes
37% Yes, but only if the risk was massively increased
51% No


Not surprised at all by that poll.
Posted by bigpapamac
Mobile, AL
Member since Oct 2007
22377 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:21 pm to
I think its hilarious Ole Miss fans are I'm this thread hating on Saban and his need for 'help' against fast paced offenses when Alabama shut out Ole Miss this year.
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
57002 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:22 pm to
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Our three losses were to spread teams, true... We outgained Auburn, and missed 3 FGs before the one that fell short. That had a lot more to do with it.

We outgained Texas A&M, but had three turnovers including one at the goal line that would've put us ahead, probably for the win.

We outgained Oklahoma, but had five turnovers and a missed FG - a game we lost by two scores.

Our offense and special teams, or to be fair, Texas A&M's and Oklahoma's defenses as well as Auburn forcing us to FG attempts, had more to do with it. Sure, we gave up points, but we held AU and Texas A&M's offenses to under 30 points each. That should have been enough to win both games if our offense had made its normal output.



that looks like a lot of moral victories, yall should just claim the W's
This post was edited on 2/20/14 at 12:24 pm
Posted by NYCAuburn
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Member since Feb 2011
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Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:23 pm to
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So, I don't know what you are talking about with respect to your comment
then you are pretty clueless
Posted by cas4t
Member since Jan 2010
70903 posts
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if you were not retarded you would realize that those 3 losses were not about hunh. The a&m trouble was almost 100% due to manziel, not defensive scheme. We normally had the right play in, he would just make something out of nothing. The auburn loss this year had more to do with our own 3rd down trouble on offense, poor field goal kicking, and a bad offensive strategy than Auburns offense. The Oklahoma loss was petty much 100% due to offensive miscues, namely 5 turnovers. You don't turn the ball over like that and beat a top 10 team. We were weaker this year on d than past years but we still were one of the best in the country and were plenty good to repeat. We should have used the auburn offensive game plan at Oklahoma and the Oklahoma offensive game plan at auburn. Auburns pass d was hot garbage yet we kept trying to run right through the best part of their team, the dline. Oklahoma could not stop our rushing attach to save their lives so of course we throw it at then and turn it over a bunch.


Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30214 posts
Posted on 2/20/14 at 12:26 pm to
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Why is this the Saban rule? He was simply asked to speak about it. Shouldnt it be the Bielema rule?
Gets more shock value if folks tag Saban to anything. The little multimillion dollar devil is sitting back laughing his arse off at the shite people give him credit for.
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