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re: The Lost Year: Houston Nutt, Gus Malzahn, Mitch Mustain (Article Link Inside)

Posted on 7/19/13 at 10:46 am to
Posted by Drewbie
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 10:46 am to
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You need to understand what the core is, what the base of the offense is in order to work everything else. Everything else spins off it. If you add your core formations, protections, routes and then from there you have your core concepts.

"We never had that."
And the team STILL went 10-4. When I say ANY coach, I mean ANY other coach could have won a natty with that team that year.
Posted by wartiger2004
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 10:47 am to
I think we can all agree Hooty needs to hep himself to a fire to jump in.
Posted by DMagic
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 10:48 am to
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I'm certainly not going to pretend like an 18 year old kid and a 50 year old millionaire should be judged by the same measuring stick.



Preach
Posted by parkjas2001
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 10:48 am to
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Recruit Mustain, Williams, Cleveland, and the WR that followed him to Tulsa then transferred back to Arkansas to sign.

He failed to sway the lineman that went to ND.


His job was to recruit, no? Wheres the negative?

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Gus didn't like being told to take that "high school shite" back to his house when he showed up with the flash cards he uses on the sidelines by Herring.


Herring was the DC?
Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 10:49 am to
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Still choked all three times


How would you know, a second ago you thought we'd only been once and that Gus was the reason. Did you have to use google?

You really have a lot of football knowledge.
Posted by wartiger2004
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 10:49 am to
Sounds a lot like Tubbs staff and Otis the drunk in 08.
Posted by WDE24
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 10:50 am to
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And the team STILL went 10-4. When I say ANY coach, I mean ANY other coach could have won a natty with that team that year.

USC was still going to beat you no matter who the coach was. Every other game was very winnable.
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 10:50 am to
I so sorry Stone.












This post was edited on 7/19/13 at 10:52 am
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 11:00 am to
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His job was to recruit, no? Wheres the negative?



His role in the offense was to improve the passing game and add wrinkles to the offense.

He got very upset when Nutt wouldn't let him run his HUNH Air Raid offense. It was the right call by Nutt with the running backs/run blocking scheme that had been in place. The "blame" that can be given to Gus is he was less than willing to adapt the offensive strategy to the personnel.

He didn't run a spread option power running game in HS like he did with Cam at Auburn, he didn't run it at Tulsa, if he has learned anything of his 7 years of experience, he might be able to do decent at Auburn this year as you do not have the QB on the roster to run the offense he ran back then. (Arkansas didn't either, even with Mustain, maybe when Mustain was a Soph/Junior that offense could have been put into place).

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Herring was the DC?



Yes. He and Nutt agreed the HUNH wasn't the best strategy for that roster, the defense was good, but it wasn't the deepest in the world, we were fortunate to go the season with the only serious injury occurring to Hillis in November.

As far as why Mustain went to SC, he did so because SC ran a pro-style offense while he had the same problem Wilson had of taking almost every snap from Shotgun while in HS, following Gus to Tulsa wasn't going to make the "system QB" tag go away that people were giving him.

Hindsight being what it is, he would have been better to transfer to one of the big12 or big10 schools that offered him a spot. Tyler Wilson would have had problems seeing the field at SC with the QBs Carroll was recruiting "good to go" as far as his offense, it took Wilson a while to get comfortable taking snaps under center.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 11:05 am to
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USC was still going to beat you no matter who the coach was. Every other game was very winnable.



Yes, but originally we were suppose to play them after tune up games with Utah State and Vandy. The game was moved up by ESPN.

Robert Johnson started the game as Dick was injured, Mustain was 3rd on the depth chart. Nutt burned his redshirt in that game when the crowd was getting angered by the team's performance and Gus ran the HUNH for a couple series, we scored, but gave up more as the defense wore themselves out.

Had the game been played at the original date, RoJo could have beaten Utah St, Dick would have been ready to go against Vandy, for sure SC, RoJo could have done enough to beat Vandy. Mustain would have red-shirted, the drama level would have been drastically lower, and Nutt could have improved his job security.

Nutt's ego got in his own way, a reoccurring theme in his coaching career that started with him having his daddy call Holtz to inform him his son had transferred to Okie State after being beaten out for the starting QB job.
Posted by joeyb147
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 11:06 am to
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He got very upset when Nutt wouldn't let him run his HUNH Air Raid offense. It was the right call by Nutt with the running backs/run blocking scheme that had been in place. The "blame" that can be given to Gus is he was less than willing to adapt the offensive strategy to the personnel.
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He didn't run a spread option power running game in HS like he did with Cam at Auburn, he didn't run it at Tulsa
Are you saying he ran his "HUNH Air Raid offense" at Tulsa?
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 11:08 am to
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And the team STILL went 10-4. When I say ANY coach, I mean ANY other coach could have won a natty with that team that year.

USC was still going to beat you no matter who the coach was. Every other game was very winnable.


2007 was Arkansas's year to do something... it would've been year two under Malzahn and the backfield would've still been loaded.
Posted by joeyb147
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 11:08 am to
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Nutt burned his redshirt in that game when the crowd was getting angered by the team's performance and Gus ran the HUNH for a couple series, we scored, but gave up more as the defense wore themselves out.
You were already down 44-7 before Mustain took a snap. Any other lies you wanna propagate?
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 11:10 am to
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2007 was Arkansas's year to do something... it would've been year two under Malzahn and the backfield would've still been loaded.



We lost most of the impact players to the NFL after 06, the recruiting class that year was a complete bust, probably Nutt's worst ever.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 11:11 am to
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Are you saying he ran his "HUNH Air Raid offense" at Tulsa?



Can you read or is it just comprehension problems?
Posted by lowspark12
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 11:12 am to
yet you beat the eventual national champs in their stadium... and 2007's recruiting class had very little impact on 2007 season. Down the road, obviously it did.

Posted by Stonehog
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 11:14 am to
Let's not pretend like Lsu 2007 was some great team. Kentucky beat them.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 11:15 am to
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yet you beat the eventual national champs in their stadium... and 2007's recruiting class had very little impact on 2007 season. Down the road, obviously it did.



Sure, Nutt got his team up for his last game as HC.

He was informed before the Tennessee game he was going to be fired, how did that game turn out?
Posted by joeyb147
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 11:20 am to
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Can you read or is it just comprehension problems?
Is it that hard for you to answer the fricking question?

I want to make sure you actually believe the bullshite you post before proving how big of a dumbass you truly are.
Posted by DaleDenton
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Posted on 7/19/13 at 11:22 am to
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Is it that hard for you to answer the fricking question?



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He didn't run a spread option power running game in HS like he did with Cam at Auburn, he didn't run it at Tulsa
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