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re: The "illegal Pass"

Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:40 am to
Posted by Rebelgator
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:40 am to
Don't ever change you fricking delusional Gumps.

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Posted by nicholastiger
Member since Jan 2004
42458 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:40 am to
That was one of the reasons for the extra official, to catch that play. It is a hard thing to catch during live action. You almost have to go to replay to catch it in most instances.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
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Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:41 am to
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That's debateable.


It is debatable. It's not debatable that lots of his body was behind the LOS. Changing the rule will make the call much, much more difficult.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50395 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:41 am to
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It will make the call even more difficult and every questionable pass near the LOS will have to be reviewed to see not where the body is, but where the QB releases the ball.


I'm not seeing the negative.
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:42 am to
Because you're arguing for this instance.

The game isn't helped by more reviewed plays and more uncertainty.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50395 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:43 am to
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Don't ever change you fricking delusional Gumps.


The Rebel victory melt continues.
Posted by Alleycat9
Auburn, Al
Member since Sep 2014
255 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:44 am to
GRegAl

The ball is out of his hand in that picture, I cant find replay with the same angle that was shown during the game, that shows the ball leaving his hand on the yard marker not the grey line.

I agree the rule should be change to where the ball is at the time it is released. The linemen downfield is an issue of itself. I don't think it should be reviewable however db's are taught to read the Guards and Tackles to know whether its a run or pass. The offense has the advantage until its corrected.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32845 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:44 am to
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Because you're arguing for this instance.

The game isn't helped by more reviewed plays and more uncertainty.


The play is already being reviewed, so it's not an extra review.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50395 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:44 am to
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The game isn't helped by more reviewed plays and more uncertainty.


But it is helped by fewer forward passes beyond the line of scrimmage.

Maybe a better rule change is to allow the linemen down field to be reviewed. I dunno. I don't really mind the pass as much as I mind that rule being missed so consistently.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:45 am to
The so called pop pass is illegal as it is being run. Teams are clearly sending their Olinemen downfield to disguise it and the officials are not calling it.

This play has hurt Alabama badly as Auburn got away with it to tie the IB a couple years back and now this.

Saban is probably on the phone with the SEC as we speak and the replay will back him up. And I bet he isn't being very nice about it he has had to do it before.

Earlier in the day Auburn scored on LSU doing the same thing. Gary Danielson caught it and said this needs to be cleaned up. If I were a coach and I know they won't call it I would run it too, I don't blame the coaches I blame the officials and the league office.
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 8:48 am
Posted by partsman103
Member since Sep 2008
8090 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:45 am to
I think the rule should be the same as making a catch. As long as a foot (or part of the body) is behind the LOS, and no other body part has made contact beyond the LOS before the ball is released, then it is a legal play.

As for arguing over the actual call, the call was correct as stated by others on this board. It was the no call of a lineman beyond the 3 yard zone that upsets people. Also the no call on the "tip" during the onside kick wasn't called.

But alas....after the tipped pass/catch that went for TD was proof to me that no way Bama was going to win the game. lol.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50395 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:46 am to
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The offense has the advantage until its corrected.


If you don't want it to be reviewable, how do you propose it be fixed?
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:46 am to
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The play is already being reviewed, so it's not an extra review.


Any pass close to the LOS would have to be reviewed.
Posted by ohsfan281
Member since Sep 2015
149 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:46 am to
Most of these gimps crying about changing the rules are just hypocrites. Never seen a single gump want to change any rules after the numerous bad calls from the referees that have benefitted them
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:48 am to
This is worse than a bad call this is a deliberate illegal play. And the officials know about it it has definitely been discussed and complained about.
This post was edited on 9/21/15 at 8:50 am
Posted by the808bass
The Lou
Member since Oct 2012
111507 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:49 am to
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But it is helped by fewer forward passes beyond the line of scrimmage.


It would also be helped by less holding by the OLine. Should we review each play for that?
Posted by Patton
Principality of Sealand
Member since Apr 2011
32652 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:49 am to
Well no shite you tard. People don't often complain when things go their way, except Ole Miss fans apparently.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50395 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:49 am to
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Most of these gimps crying about changing the rules are just hypocrites. Never seen a single gump want to change any rules after the numerous bad calls from the referees that have benefitted them


This call is consistently being missed. It's not a one-off.
Posted by imjustafatkid
Alabama
Member since Dec 2011
50395 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:52 am to
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It would also be helped by less holding by the OLine. Should we review each play for that?



They say every play is reviewed so I'm not real sure what you're getting at. Nothing would change in your scenario except for more blatant holds being called.
Posted by The Spleen
Member since Dec 2010
38865 posts
Posted on 9/21/15 at 8:52 am to
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Never seen a single gump want to change any rules after the numerous bad calls from the referees that have benefitted them



Could you list some specific examples?
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