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re: The "illegal Pass"

Posted on 9/22/15 at 1:10 pm to
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 1:10 pm to
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Have you ever watched a football game? If QB is hit and it disrupts his motion, they will not call grounding.


exactly. I don't know what is up with these people. Probably never watched a football game that doesn't involve Bama so they have no clue as to how football is actually called.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 1:13 pm to
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I would imagine Saban and the league office had an interesting talk on Monday AM.


I imagine that they didn't unless they are delusional as you guys are
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 1:17 pm to
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Did you not watch the game? I'm sure it wouldn't be hard to look up the blatant hold on Auburn's long TD, the BS flag on JSU for unsportsmanlike conduct, or lack of the same for a much more obvious example from Auburn. Those are only a handful of examples. It's a shame JSU was worked after they beat Auburn the entire game.



No way a buckeye fan paid that close of attention to an Auburn vs JSU game, your a bama alter aren't you? Thankfully the refs didn't miss any calls against us in that game. We actually lost a starter on D to a missed call.
Posted by Tigerman97
Member since Jun 2014
10354 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 1:20 pm to
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2 years ago in the Iron Bowl, Auburn ran a similar play to score and tied the game late. When Marshall released the ball there were linemen 6 yards down field, which makes it a run play. Same thing on this past Saturday in the LSU vs Auburn game and the Ole Miss vs Bama game. It is impossible to stop that play if you let linemen block down field. Call the penalty and enforce the rule or do away with it.

thank you Uncle Luke!


IF the rule isn't enforced I don't know why the teams that run that gimmicky offense like Auburn and Ole Miss don't run the play more often. Its an utter joke that the SEC officials continue to get this call wrong.


I am certain there is a gif floating around here that shows the guy was like 4 yards down field, but call it 6 it makes the argument seem more coherent. Truth be damned.
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
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Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:05 pm to
bullshite! Lineman down field by one or two yards still has almost zero effect on a play. Holding, however, greatly affect a play and happens on almost every damn down. You want to make that reviewable too? Get a grip.
Posted by VivaZapata27
Natchez, Ms
Member since Apr 2013
3573 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:08 pm to
And that 'rule' has a very real impact on the outcome of a play.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:20 pm to
Kelly threw that ball while in the grasp to avoid the loss and it was plain to see that he did. His motion was sidearm he was desperate to get rid of it.
Posted by GnashRebel
Member since May 2015
8176 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:22 pm to
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antibarner


Just stop, bud. It was a great game that Bama could have easily won. Now you are just going to alienate yourself from other Bama fans. Bama is still an awesome program.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:24 pm to
You're being obstinate. The pop pass controversy predates the Ole Miss game. Auburn runs it repeatedly and scored with it vs LSU.

The linemen run downfield to disguise the play, this is a planned and called play, and if I were a coach and they won't call it I would run it too.

My point is it is illegal as run.
Posted by antibarner
Member since Oct 2009
23711 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:25 pm to
Of course it is. I credit Ole Miss for finding a way to win.
I am more upset at the officials for being arse gaskets than anything.

There is no way they don't know that the HUNH teams are going to run the play, and they should be alert for it.
This post was edited on 9/22/15 at 2:27 pm
Posted by RANDY44
Member since Aug 2005
9572 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 2:52 pm to
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Where Kelly passed the ball is not what made it illegal. They had a lineman 5+ yards down field, running to make a block before the ball was released. They need to start making that reviewable, because it happens a lot and it's hardly ever called.

Same in the Auburn game which of course Danielson caught and commented on. Like Vern said, Thank goodness that score did not decide the game.
Posted by dtmb
Member since Mar 2013
663 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:10 pm to
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Kelly threw that ball while in the grasp to avoid the loss and it was plain to see that he did. His motion was sidearm he was desperate to get rid of it.


I think you honestly believe what you're saying. With respect, you're mistaken.

We'll never know where Kelly was going to throw. Urgency doesn't automatically mean that a QB is going to intentionally ground a ball. There were only two possibilities under the circumstances: a fumble, or an incomplete pass. Because his arm was moving forward, regardless of the angle, it was an incomplete pass. Intentional grounding was not even a possible outcome.

Bama fans have a legitimate complaint about the missed lineman downfield, and the luck involved with the deflected pass, but this intentional grounding stuff sounds too much like whining.
Posted by Vols&Shaft83
Throbbing Member
Member since Dec 2012
69901 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:13 pm to
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bullshite! Lineman down field by one or two yards still has almost zero effect on a play. Holding, however, greatly affect a play and happens on almost every damn down. You want to make that reviewable too? Get a grip.





1 or 2 yards?



Good God, fricking Rebals are fat, poor, racist, and stupid.
Posted by DisplacedBuckeye
Member since Dec 2013
71494 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:21 pm to
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No way a buckeye fan paid that close of attention to an Auburn vs JSU game, your a bama alter aren't you? Thankfully the refs didn't miss any calls against us in that game. We actually lost a starter on D to a missed call.


I'm a football fan. I watched the entire game for two other reasons. I love a great upset and I hate when a shite team gets ranked way too high.

The calls went in favor of Auburn and that's not even remotely up for debate. The calls against JSU were plainly awful and dictated the outcome. If you want to have the discussion of how losing one player on defense nearly cost you that game, I'm all for it.
Posted by djsdawg
Member since Apr 2015
32845 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:34 pm to
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That is ridiculous.

Also, do we have any examples of what is insinuated against JSU or are we just making things up now.

To my original point, refs miss calls.


How is it ridiculous?

The Shon Coleman hold on the long TD pass late is what folks are talking about.
Posted by dtmb
Member since Mar 2013
663 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:39 pm to
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Good God, fricking Rebals are fat, poor, racist, and stupid.


Your words are hurtful.
Posted by boxcar willie
kenner
Member since Mar 2011
16035 posts
Posted on 9/22/15 at 3:45 pm to
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Kelly threw that ball while in the grasp to avoid the loss and it was plain to see that he did. His motion was sidearm he was desperate to get rid of it.


well no shite, he threw the ball to avoid the loss, so what? Doesn't matter, when the QB is in the grasp of a defender and his arm is moving forward, it is an incomplete pass. That is just the way football is called. You want the refs to have thrown the flag on that play when they would not have thrown it for that same thing in any other game. In a way I was surprised it wasn't thrown being the game was in Tuscalousa and with SEC refs. The refs surprised me in that they weren't blatantly favoring Bama.
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