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re: 'The culture is a disaster:' Jones, Vols trending the wrong way

Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:44 am to
Posted by BigOrangeVols
Knoxville
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:44 am to
Well if an anonymous source says it's true then it must be!
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:44 am to
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Yes. But the fall off in S&C is Jones's responsibility because of the "Inmates running the asylum" culture that he's created.



He's in over his head, and he has until end of 2017 to have a career epiphany or he's gone.




Exactly. My point is that the mantra repeated by so many Vol fans "but we had so many injuries"...as if it was just bad luck...according to this article isn't really the case. Lousy S&C program, along with players like Kongbo refusing to play. All of it is Jones's responsibility.
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:44 am to
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Lol

Did you say that with a straight face?


Are you still rtfu over this?

Is an Ole Miss fan really accusing others of shady hiring practices that could benefit recruiting? Lmao
Posted by dan765
Charleston
Member since Aug 2016
1170 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:45 am to
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Ummmmm... The way Tennessee is trending, they're one QB and a playmaker or two away from winning the SEC.


The way they're trending? LOL Tell me more about this.
Posted by UF
Florida
Member since Nov 2016
2696 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:46 am to
And what's this nonsense about Kongbo refusing to play? Does Butch have any testosterone at all?
Posted by scrooster
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Member since Jul 2012
37599 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:47 am to
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Pretty telling that Scrooster would post this article without posting the end. The crazy old frick is Volsessed


I left that up to you ... figured you would excerpt it for everyone.

I've got Vol family - not obsessed, just interested in the peyton place that seems to constantly be UT-Knoxville these days.
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:48 am to
I'm not defending Butch by any means but I question how accurate that part is. Kongbo played a shite load of DT the last few games of the season iirc. The pick six he had against Missouri was at defensive tackle
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:50 am to
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When it gets to 5 losses in 7 years to Vanderbilt



Won't happen


I'm sorry...was there a breaking story that Butch got fired and that Derek Mason got hired somewhere else? I must have missed it.
Posted by UF
Florida
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2696 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:50 am to
then maybe that calls into question the other aspects of the article.
Posted by dan765
Charleston
Member since Aug 2016
1170 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:51 am to
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Great recruiter, bad coach, and is losing control of his program.



I wouldn't even call him a great recruiter.
Posted by BamaGradinTn
Murfreesboro
Member since Dec 2008
26956 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:51 am to
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I'm not defending Butch by any means but I question how accurate that part is. Kongbo played a shite load of DT the last few games of the season iirc. The pick six he had against Missouri was at defensive tackle


And Hurd got lots of snaps at RB, but then refused to play, right? It could have been at a specific time.
Posted by Nukeese
Member since Nov 2016
1269 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:52 am to
I don't know how accurate the Freshman bit is. The only Freshman I can think of who saw a lot of playing time this season was Tyler Byrd and Baylen Buchanan. Byrd may be our best reciever truth be told, so I doubt it's him struggling with concepts. Buchanan didn't have any scheme issues, just wasn't good enough yet to cement his spot.


Warrior played a lot, but him being lazy and disinterested would be the first I've heard of this. He's supposedly struggled with grasping Shoops defense, but it's a very complicated defense and a lot of our players struggled to fully understand their roles in it.


Of course he could just be talking about Drew Richmond, which would fit the description given in the article despite his progression towards the end of the year.
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:52 am to
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Lol

Did you say that with a straight face?


Ole Miss fan incredulous to the idea that a black woman could be hired based on her ability. I am shocked.
Posted by Nukeese
Member since Nov 2016
1269 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:54 am to
Derek Mason is 1-2 vs Butch Jones let's not pretend like he owns VOLS. They were beaten to a pulp last year in Neyland, don't exaggerate it like they have been dominant.
This post was edited on 12/7/16 at 12:06 pm
Posted by mtn cur
south
Member since Nov 2016
229 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:55 am to
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Derek Mason is 2-2 vs Butch Jones let's not pretend like he owns VOLS. They were beaten to a pulp last year in Neyland, don't exaggerate it like they have been dominant


WOW....its Vanderbilt numb nuts

Posted by Nukeese
Member since Nov 2016
1269 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:56 am to
Quit replying to my comments you invalid
Posted by Scoreboard
Madison, AL
Member since Apr 2012
2011 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:56 am to
He took in way more commits than were allowed by the SEC and got them onto campus via loopholes.

Just not true. The EEs counted on the previous year's totals. No year had more than 25 signees cause that's the rule!
Posted by David Ricky
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Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:56 am to
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And Hurd got lots of snaps at RB, but then refused to play, right? It could have been at a specific time.


Butch severely mishandled the situation with Hurd imo
Posted by Robert Goulet
Member since Jan 2013
9999 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:56 am to
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mtn cur



cajunbama
Posted by mtn cur
south
Member since Nov 2016
229 posts
Posted on 12/7/16 at 11:57 am to
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Quit replying to my comments you invalid



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