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re: State and Ole Miss better host a regional this year
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:22 am to HottyToddy7
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:22 am to HottyToddy7
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Civil rights =/= LGBT rights. They are not the same.
they will be. MS is doing nothing more than paving the way for the SCOTUS to add sexual orientation to federally protected classes of people. regardless, the poster thinks businesses can refuse service to anyone because of "property rights"
This post was edited on 4/28/16 at 11:23 am
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:22 am to CNB
Don't make broad encompassing unintelligent racist comments.
I don't live in the state
I don't live in the state
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:23 am to DynastyDawg
I'm sorry, I had to 
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:24 am to AllbyMyRelf
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In this case, property rights
property rights are different for business owners than they are for others. and "rights" are defined not by your opinion, but by laws. "rights" are what our laws define them as. laws and "rights" are amended all the time
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:27 am to lsufball19
This was fun. My morning went by a lot faster than it would have. Good talk guys. 
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:27 am to lsufball19
Ok, so it's really just a disagreement on the existence of natural rights. I can buy your argument to an extent, but you can take that farther and say that North Koreans' rights aren't violated at all since laws determine rights.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:27 am to DingLeeBerry
Ok fine. You want me to answer your stupid question?
How would you know it's for a KKK rally? It's a dangerous can of worms that's been opened for businesses to discriminate as they see fit. Why can't we just treat people like people? Would you be okay with someone turning a military veteran away because they served?
You can't have one without the other.
How would you know it's for a KKK rally? It's a dangerous can of worms that's been opened for businesses to discriminate as they see fit. Why can't we just treat people like people? Would you be okay with someone turning a military veteran away because they served?
You can't have one without the other.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:28 am to anc
Entire south should just pass a similar law just to stick it to the NCAA.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:28 am to Lionnation1993
Yeah! Let's secede again because sports!
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:31 am to AllbyMyRelf
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Ok, so it's really just a disagreement on the existence of natural rights
natural rights are not laws
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but you can take that farther and say that North Koreans' rights aren't violated at all since laws determine rights
eh, under our laws, sure their rights are violated. Different countries have a different set of values/laws they live under. You could open a huge can of worms if you start comparing what "rights" and "laws" different countries operate under.
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Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:32 am to lsufball19
Well, you were the one who brought up laws. I started with rights. If there are natural rights, then they'd be universal.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:33 am to CNB
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State and Ole Miss better host a regional this year Ok fine. You want me to answer your stupid question? How would you know it's for a KKK rally?
Probably the same way you'd know the cake is for a gay wedding, they would tell you or ask for something specific that would tip you off, as in can you put these little men in hoods and sheets on some cupcakes for us...
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:34 am to CNB
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CNB
I really don't give a shite one way or the other about the law. Would I personally refuse service to anyone because of Sexual Orientation, Race, or any other reason such as this? Nah. I wouldn't.
However, I think other states and the federal government should keep their noses out of shite it doesn't belong in. Let the free market and the local people decide what is best for their State.
Let them have this law. If Nissan and other big companies don't like it, pull out if it means that much to them. Make the economic ramifications drive the bus. Also, the people of Mississippi need to get out and fricking vote. We have the largest majority of AA population of any state in the US. Many people interpret this law to mean that they could do the same thing to black people as they can do to homosexuals. Get out and fricking vote for your representation in the state government and this kind of thing won't happen. I bet most people would be absolutely shocked at the population number vs the number of people that vote in local elections in Mississippi, but the same people that don't vote want to bitch.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:34 am to AllbyMyRelf
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If there are natural rights, then they'd be universal.
natural rights aren't even universal. The differ from culture to culture
quote:rights are defined by laws. you didn't differentiate to "natural" rights until recently. legal rights and natural rights are two totally different things
I started with rights
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:36 am to CNB
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Would you be okay with someone turning a military veteran away because they served?
Absolutely I would be ok with it. If this happened the business would fricking go under in a couple months.
So I would be completely fine with another business going under if they refused service to a homosexual person and they could get enough support to boycott the organization.
That's how things should work. Not what's going on today.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:36 am to CNB
This is going to sound awful but if you try to understand what I'm saying it wont sound that bad.
The CW was fought over slavery and it was a bad issue to fight over. Obviously the south was wrong 1000000%. But the Civil War answered the question of State's rights. From that point forward the Fed was more powerful than the State.
Previous to 24 hour news stations and the internet people would live their entire lives not knowing what was happening outside of their little bubble. People lived in communities and states that were made up of like minded people and lived under laws that they were comfortable with. People in San Franscisco and Jackson, MS never had interaction. Both lived in the US but under different state laws and different core values and everyone was happy. Now that you can see what is happening all over the country, people try to make everyone live the "right" way and its not possible. The Fed is backing this idea.
The South was wrong on the issue of slavery but maybe not on the issue of State's rights. We were better off as a country when you lived in your bubble in laws you were comfortable with. If you didn't like where you were you had every right to move to greener pastures. Small portions of the population of an area weren't trying to change that community that was a heavy majority against the minority on that issue.
The CW was fought over slavery and it was a bad issue to fight over. Obviously the south was wrong 1000000%. But the Civil War answered the question of State's rights. From that point forward the Fed was more powerful than the State.
Previous to 24 hour news stations and the internet people would live their entire lives not knowing what was happening outside of their little bubble. People lived in communities and states that were made up of like minded people and lived under laws that they were comfortable with. People in San Franscisco and Jackson, MS never had interaction. Both lived in the US but under different state laws and different core values and everyone was happy. Now that you can see what is happening all over the country, people try to make everyone live the "right" way and its not possible. The Fed is backing this idea.
The South was wrong on the issue of slavery but maybe not on the issue of State's rights. We were better off as a country when you lived in your bubble in laws you were comfortable with. If you didn't like where you were you had every right to move to greener pastures. Small portions of the population of an area weren't trying to change that community that was a heavy majority against the minority on that issue.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:37 am to lsufball19
I started with "if you believe in property rights" you don't have to believe in legislation-- it exists. I started with natural rights.
And no, truth is truth, it can't contradict itself, so they would have to be universal.
And no, truth is truth, it can't contradict itself, so they would have to be universal.
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:38 am to anc
What about that woman in Kentucky that refused to marry that gay couple? My only thing with that is that was her job and should have resigned
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:43 am to AllbyMyRelf
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I started with "if you believe in property rights"
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I started with natural rights.
so which one is it?
Posted on 4/28/16 at 11:44 am to joshua2571
I agree that she should have resigned, however, I also recognize when she came into the job the issue at hand wasn't a requirement for the job. That being said, if she was able to find a lawyer to represent her and wanted to fight it more power to them. Stupid lawsuits should be an option to both sides on an issue if they are open to one.
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