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re: Stanford head coach David Shaw just disrespects the entire SEC
Posted on 4/12/16 at 10:33 am to 257WBY
Posted on 4/12/16 at 10:33 am to 257WBY
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Stanford also has more from Dixie than Michigan does. How do they get all those dummies in?
They just find the ones who don't have outrageous chips on their shoulders.
(I'm done defending my team's coach. Good on you for defending the SEC against all threats, real and imagined.)
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 10:39 am
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Posted on 4/12/16 at 10:46 am to weedGOKU666
That's very akin to saying that great Universities are wasting their time recruiting minority neighborhoods. It makes some pretty big assumptions about the hidden gems within that are not very flattering to Shaw, and makes him seem like an elitist. Everybody knows Stanford is for super- smart kids. So diminishing regions and the kids in those regions, just makes him seem small and insecure.
I mean, I know where McCaffery was raised, I know the assets that kid has had his entire life. Absolutely the very best of everything. Super affluent community, tutors on demand, high-level training and sports medicine, prep schools, hobnobbing with millionaires and billionaires.I mean the kid has Colorado legends like Patrick Roy,Todd Helton and John Elway at his birthday party growing up. Meanwhile, a kid like Leonard Fournette grows up in a drug-infested shooting gallery and his parents are working three jobs to keep the light bill on. So yeah, David...stay where you are comfortable my friend. We will recruit where we find them.
I mean, I know where McCaffery was raised, I know the assets that kid has had his entire life. Absolutely the very best of everything. Super affluent community, tutors on demand, high-level training and sports medicine, prep schools, hobnobbing with millionaires and billionaires.I mean the kid has Colorado legends like Patrick Roy,Todd Helton and John Elway at his birthday party growing up. Meanwhile, a kid like Leonard Fournette grows up in a drug-infested shooting gallery and his parents are working three jobs to keep the light bill on. So yeah, David...stay where you are comfortable my friend. We will recruit where we find them.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 10:47 am to oman
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You don't let exceptional athletes in because they are dumber. You let them in because they have skills and experience that others don't have. They have met or exceeded the standard of having unique students.
It was a douche comment by Shaw. However, it does take a rare kid to play football in P5 conference like the Pac and succeed at a place as rigorous as Stanford. I know I couldn't do it. Of course Stanford, alters is requirements relative to other applicants significantly to admit athletes because they have a special talent....Still....they are going to have to go to the same classes and complete the same coursework as their more academically gifted classmates and that cannot be easy...
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:23 am to oman
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You provided a link that didn't support that. Most people would say that you made a mistake by doing so.
So the follow up that I provided that explicitly has Stanford stating that their athletes are held "the same standards" doesn't support what I've said since the beginning?
Again, other than the quote which I intentionally took out of context to provoke you, show me where I said that Shaw specifically stated that there is no difference between the standards for athletes and students? Hint: I didn't. What I *have* done, is point out that Stanford promotes (wisely I might add) a public perception that their athletic program is of the same academic caliber as the rest of their student body, which just isn't accurate. Do the students have other merit beyond academic performance? Sure. They simply aren't all the brilliant scholar minds that we're spoon fed.
I've got no personal issues with Stanford. Great institution. Was accepted there (among many other places) for my MBA. This was simply a wildly inaccurate statement made by Shaw. I don't have a problem with stating that camps wouldn't be effective for you... hell they weren't really likely to be effective for many SEC coaches either. But if you're going to spout out bullshite, I've also got the right to call it as such. To say that there "might only be 1" who could qualify for admission implies that the threshold is something that it is not.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:27 am to oman
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people are always looking for a way you be insulted
No, I wasn't. I wasn't looking to get stung by a wasp last weekend, either. It just blindsided me.
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Shaw's relationship with Harbaugh underlies the comment
Ohhh, that's different! Had Harbaugh had a satellite camp in Puerto Rico, Shawn could've said "Why have a camp where maybe one person wouldn't mug you/steal your rims", and that would be fine?
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:38 am to scrooster
30% (21) of Stanford's current roster comes from Southern states including 3 from Texas.
21 players are from California.
Outside the West:
South 21. Everyone else 9.
Midwest (6)
Illinois - 2
Ohio - 2
Minnesota - 1
Nebraska - 1
Northeast (2)
Mass - 1
Maryland (pseudo NE) - 1
All West (northwest and southwest)(41)
California - 21
Arizona - 5
Washington - 4
Utah - 4
Idaho - 2
Oregon - 2
Hawaii - 1
Colorado - 1
Nevada - 1
South (21)
Georgia - 5
Louisiana - 4
Florida - 3
Texas - 3
North Carolina - 3
South Carolina - 1
Tennessee - 1
Virginia - 1
Canada - 1
21 players are from California.
Outside the West:
South 21. Everyone else 9.
Midwest (6)
Illinois - 2
Ohio - 2
Minnesota - 1
Nebraska - 1
Northeast (2)
Mass - 1
Maryland (pseudo NE) - 1
All West (northwest and southwest)(41)
California - 21
Arizona - 5
Washington - 4
Utah - 4
Idaho - 2
Oregon - 2
Hawaii - 1
Colorado - 1
Nevada - 1
South (21)
Georgia - 5
Louisiana - 4
Florida - 3
Texas - 3
North Carolina - 3
South Carolina - 1
Tennessee - 1
Virginia - 1
Canada - 1
This post was edited on 4/12/16 at 11:39 am
Posted on 4/12/16 at 11:42 am to oman
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I'm done defending my team's coach
Good, you should be. It was incredibly douchey. You also don't seem to get it, which makes you look stupid,or at best completely obtuse.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:33 pm to LSUTigersVCURams
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I mean you're right to a degree but do you think Stanford has any kids on their football team who can't read? Do you think any SEC teams do? Just as an example, Michael Oher literally couldn't read very well when he was at Ole Miss. Hell of a football player, but I doubt he would have been playing at Stanford.
That's a failure of the system, not the school. OM isn't supposed to be allowing illiterates to attend either. He's not lacking because he attended OM, after all. He's lacking despite attending OM.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:38 pm to randomways
I wonder if David Shaw know that Condi Rice is from Birmingham? She was Stanford's provost for a few years.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 12:50 pm to BamalaAnderson
Stanford was going to have a satellite camp in Utah, but he decided there would be about 1 person that was enough of a critical thinker to culturally assimilate in Palo Alto.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:03 pm to Snizzzo
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Stanford was going to have a satellite camp in Utah, but he decided there would be about 1 person that was enough of a critical thinker to culturally assimilate in Palo Alto.
Well, they have 4 on their roster now. So, your joke doesn't really work.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:15 pm to roadGator
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Imagine if he was white and he had said that
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if he was
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was
you're proving his point, baw.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 1:21 pm to TheRaid
Sure it does.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 2:36 pm to Snizzzo
David Shaw allegedly on Finebaum today at 4 pm Eastern.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:00 pm to oman
I hope he doesn't represent the good people of that fine institution poorly.
Again.
Again.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:12 pm to weedGOKU666
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Stanford head coach David Shaw just disrespects the entire SEC
Somewhere Demetris Robertson read this and started crying in to his hands.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:29 pm to RedPants
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I hope he doesn't represent the good people of that fine institution poorly.
He did fine.
Points out his dad is from Louisiana, and mom from Alabama.
Finebaum admits the tweets focusing on "SEC country" were misleading. Finebaum seems to like Shaw.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:34 pm to oman
Five bucks says he states his comment was taken out of context (it sort of was) and poorly worded (it definitely was). I get what he was actually trying to convey, but he did so in the smarmiest, most elitist way possible. Bring on the back pedaling.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:41 pm to oman
I hope you and Shaw get pink eye.
Posted on 4/12/16 at 3:43 pm to weedGOKU666
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Five bucks says he states his comment was taken out of context (it sort of was) and poorly worded (it definitely was). I get what he was actually trying to convey, but he did so in the smarmiest, most elitist way possible. Bring on the back pedaling.
Pretty much not what happened.
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