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re: Spinoff: Arkansas Fans, What is Your Program's Ceiling?

Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:19 pm to
Posted by lowspark12
nashville, tn
Member since Aug 2009
22368 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:19 pm to
The right coach could win a national title at Arkansas.... that's probably my beliema, but you never know.

I think everyone knew it would take some time
Posted by logjamming
Member since Feb 2014
7824 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:24 pm to
With the CFP, the ceiling is the same as anyone else. I don't think Bert is the coach to get them there, but it's possible.

Petrino had them close to playing for a conference title--they just had the shitty luck of having a great team in the year that Alabama and LSU had the two best teams in the country.

Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55287 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:27 pm to
Boxer, our 2012 season and Auburns Cam team proved that Arkys ceiling can be a national title. No reason it can't be.

A good solid well coached team with one diamond in the rough heisman caliber player and anythjng is possible. Auburn went all the way, we were one early season field goal away from Atlanta and everyone knows we wouldn't have lost.


You don't have to be Bama, it just helps
Posted by Porcine Human
Fayetteville, Arkansas
Member since Feb 2016
11220 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:35 pm to
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Petrino had them close to playing for a conference title--they just had the shitty luck of having a great team in the year that Alabama and LSU had the two best teams in the country.


The problem with Petrino was that his teams were never physical. Look at 2011. We struggled with a terrible Ole Miss team because they were physical. Finals score was 29-24 when we should've won by 17+. He was never going to win a championship with that approach.
Posted by Central Pork
Member since Jul 2014
1286 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:42 pm to
This season is a good test to see if CBB has a winning system. I'm anxious to see what happens.

Hog fans want a championship.
Posted by Errerrerrwere
Member since Aug 2015
38262 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 8:57 pm to
quote:

Now that A&M has joined the conference, Arkansas and LSU seem to be losing more often as A&M attempts to wall off the Texas border from


Not at all what the reality was over this past weekend in the recruiting trail.
Posted by TheSwineAssault
The Delta
Member since Apr 2010
1623 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:26 pm to
quote:

I guess that is what happens when you place your program in the hands of someone from Arkansas


Arkansas boys Fred Akers, Bear Bryant, and Switzer say hi...Throw in Jimmy Johnson, Pete Carol, Johnny Majors, Hayden Fry, and etc. who learned the ropes under Coach Broyles.

Ever heard of the Broyles award???

Texas Longhorns are like a good looking redhead. They seem like a good idea for a minute until you get to know her and realize she is an evil, selfish, whiny bitch. If you have any sense or self worth you'll get the hell out like Arkansas did 24 years ago. Kudos to Nebraska, Colorado, Texas A&M, and Mizzou for having the self respect and sense to get out of the fledgling Big 12.... A conference that is infested with the Longhorn Cancer... You selfish Tex-Mex black bean eating idiots cant figure out that nobody likes you because you are the talentless, spoiled, rich kid on the block. Arkansas OWNS Texas in today's football landscape and we will continue to strengthen with the help of your Texas bred kids. BTW..The Hogs Men's Athletic programs have 20 more Team National Championships..... Texas is a poison that kills everything around it..You are AIDS. Get off of OUR SEC board and watch the LHN ..You might find some Iowa State or Kansas State reruns worth watching.
Posted by hogNsinceReagan
Fayetteville, Ar
Member since Feb 2015
5879 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:46 pm to
Nobody worth a shite will coach at Texas for atleast 5 more years. The last of the support structure has to fall and all those hands in the cookie jar have got to starve out.

The faces of the state are Texas A&M TCU! BAYLOR! and Tech bringing up the rear!! It's a mass fkng exodus! Shine don't win ball games and the smart kids know that place is fckd.

When the granpa's of the organization quit weeping for what was. And the boosters just care about pride again, you will rebuild. Until then, your programs a joke. Until then just hang out on SEC message boards where we rep a conference where shite gets done. Better yet, move to LUBBOCK!!!
Posted by Old Sarge
Dean of Admissions, LSU
Member since Jan 2012
55287 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 9:47 pm to
quote:

Spinoff: Arkansas Fans, What is Your Program's Ceiling?
quote:
I guess that is what happens when you place your program in the hands of someone from Arkansas


Arkansas boys Fred Akers, Bear Bryant, and Switzer say hi...Throw in Jimmy Johnson, Pete Carol, Johnny Majors, Hayden Fry, and etc. who learned the ropes under Coach Broyles.

Ever heard of the Broyles award???

Texas Longhorns are like a good looking redhead. They seem like a good idea for a minute until you get to know her and realize she is an evil, selfish, whiny bitch. If you have any sense or self worth you'll get the hell out like Arkansas did 24 years ago. Kudos to Nebraska, Colorado, Texas A&M, and Mizzou for having the self respect and sense to get out of the fledgling Big 12.... A conference that is infested with the Longhorn Cancer... You selfish Tex-Mex black bean eating idiots cant figure out that nobody likes you because you are the talentless, spoiled, rich kid on the block. Arkansas OWNS Texas in today's football landscape and we will continue to strengthen with the help of your Texas bred kids. BTW..The Hogs Men's Athletic programs have 20 more Team National Championships..... Texas is a poison that kills everything around it..You are AIDS. Get off of OUR SEC board and watch the LHN ..You might find some Iowa State or Kansas State reruns worth watching.







Posted by SECdragonmaster
Order of the Dragons
Member since Dec 2013
16197 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 10:03 pm to
quote:

Auburn - 3


Auburn won the west in:

1997
2000
2004
2010
2013

That is 5.

Please remove ole miss and ags. Correct the numbers.
Posted by Barneyrb
NELA
Member since May 2016
5095 posts
Posted on 6/27/16 at 11:46 pm to
quote:

Nobody worth a shite will coach at Texas for atleast 5 more years. The last of the support structure has to fall and all those hands in the cookie jar have got to starve out.

The faces of the state are Texas A&M TCU! BAYLOR! and Tech bringing up the rear!! It's a mass fkng exodus! Shine don't win ball games and the smart kids know that place is fckd.

When the granpa's of the organization quit weeping for what was. And the boosters just care about pride again, you will rebuild. Until then, your programs a joke. Until then just hang out on SEC message boards where we rep a conference where shite gets done. Better yet, move to LUBBOCK!!!


There is something I never thought I would see, a Texass fan with a little common sense
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 9:57 am to
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This has been proven statistically false on probably 100 occasions so I will not do the numbers for you.


No need to, they are easy to obtain. After the 1999 season...

LSU was #14 in Total Wins (610)
Arkansas was #24 in Total Wins (587)

LSU was #17 in Winning Percentage (62.5%)
Arkansas was #27 in Winning Percentage (59.4%)

LSU was #13 in Bowl wins (14)
Arkansas was #26 in Bowl wins (10)

LSU was #9 in Bowl Appearances (31)
Arkansas was #12 in Bowl Appearances (30)

LSU had a National Title to their credit (1958)
Arkansas did not have any National Titles


It's quite clear that LSU was the better overall program... this was STILL the case despite LSU being on the tail end of their worst decade of football in their program's entire history.

Instead of going back to 1999, if you were to compare how the two looked after 1988, it would be even more lopsided in LSU's favor.

quote:

Sorry, but Saban built that program from the ground up


LSU had 7 SEC Titles to their credit before Saban ever set foot in Baton Rouge. While Saban was certainly responsible for turning the program around after the dismal 1990s, its ridiculous to say he "built the program from the ground up."

quote:

to say you or anyone saw that coming is the biggest crock of shite that has ever been spewed from your mouth.


EVERYONE who knew football in 1999 knew that LSU was under-performing as a program. I'm not sure you have a clue about just how bad LSU was during the '90s. From 1989-1999, LSU amassed an overall record of just 58-65-1.

Again, this is a program that had won a National Championship (a real one). They had won seven SEC Championships at that point. They had produced a Heisman Trophy winner. And as of 1988, they were 11th nationally in winning percentage for power programs.

Programs like that don't typically experience over a decade of sub .500 football. So when LSU went through that dark period, everyone who knew anything about college football knew that they were under-performing.


And this doesn't even cover the fact that the state of Louisiana is oozing with top high school talent. The state of Louisiana ranks #7 in producing NFL players (behind Florida, California, Texas, Georgia, Ohio, and Alabama). They rank #2 of all states at producing NFL players per capita.

Those are the facts now, and it was the same case in 1999. It was preposterous for anyone to think LSU would NOT bounce back.
Posted by cardboardboxer
Member since Apr 2012
34330 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:04 am to
quote:

Boxer, our 2012 season and Auburns Cam team proved that Arkys ceiling can be a national title. No reason it can't be.



I want to be clear I wasn't trying to argue what Arky's ceiling is, I wanted honest answers so I didn't put forth any opinion. I was just trying to clarify the question and the thought process that brought me there.

I am really happy with the response so far.
Posted by piggilicious
Member since Jan 2011
37299 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:07 am to
quote:

Sure it's just fricking retarded. It's like saying all we need to do to be good is be good You need good recruits to start winning regularly and need to start winning regularly to get good recruits, bit of a catch 22 no


did petrino have great recruiting classes? no. did we win more regularly? yes.

i didn't say we had to win the nc to win the nc. i'm sorry you can't understand basic english.


Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:15 am to
quote:

Apparently none of these guys are old enough to remember what LSU really is...


Apparently Hog fans are so clueless they don't know that the game of football was played far before the year 1990. That, or you are just blinded by jealousy of the program to your South.

LSU's Ranking in the AP Poll per decade:

1930s: #12 team of the decade (2 SEC Titles)
1940s: #21 team of the decade
1950s: #24 team of the decade (1 SEC Title)
1960s: #8 team of the decade (1 SEC Title)
1970s: #17 team of the decade (1 SEC Title)
1980s: #18 team of the decade (2 SEC Titles)
1990s: #36 team of the decade
2000s: #6 team of the decade (3 SEC Titles)
2010s: #9 team of the decade (1 SEC Title)

ALL TIME RANK: #11

Now which decade sticks out as the biggest outlier?

Of course Arkansas fans want to pick out the outlier and then declare it as the norm.

Posted by Corch Urban Myers
Columbus, OH
Member since Jul 2009
5993 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:20 am to
They should be happy just to go 7-5 and get a Liberty Bowl bid.
Posted by TheSwineAssault
The Delta
Member since Apr 2010
1623 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:21 am to
If the NCAA, Helms Foundation, FWAA, Frank Broyles, Jimmy Johnson, and Barry Switzer acknowledges Arkansas' 1964 Title then you might want too also.. JJ speaks proudly of Arkansas'title in the Miami Hurricanes 30 for 30. Georgia has never had a coach who could carry Broyles or Holtz's jockstrap. Stop being so jealous. I guarantee you that if Arkansas had Georgia's resources in recruiting we would not under-perform like y'all are famous for. Arkansas and Georgia both have 1 Natty in Football but we stomp Georgia as an athletic program you ignorant dwarf. Give Green Bay back their G...The G on Georgia's Helmets stand for GAY. Have fun with Jim Chaney and your unproven head coach.. BTW.... Arkansas hires away Head coaches from teams like the ATLANTA FALCONS and Wisconsin Badgers while Georgia is hiring Alabama's waterboy and the gay parade of Chaney/Pittman. I can't wait to see the dogs fall on their face.
Posted by TheSwineAssault
The Delta
Member since Apr 2010
1623 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:33 am to
ohio is the worst state in the union...worse than Mississippi. You had to buy the Rock and Roll Hall of Fame and then actually try to say that cleavland is the Birthplace of Rock and Roll
Ever heard of Johnny Cash, Elvis, Howling Wolf, Carl Perkins, Albert King??? Sam Phillips?? Sun Studios in Memphis?? Rock was born in the Delta of Arkansas and Mississippi and recorded in Memphis you idiot yankee. Go suck Trent Reznor's cucumber you tight rolled jean wearing metrosexual. Ohio has the worse kind of yankee. I've met cool yankees from Illinois, Indiana, Michigan...but every Ohio person I meet I want to punch in the throat.
The frickeyes are the beneficiary of your overpopulated, polluted, cold, polka dancing state. You suck...The rust belt sucks, And your state sucks. Go celebrate Lebron you midget porn star.
Posted by BHMKyle
Birmingham, AL
Member since Feb 2013
5076 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:36 am to
quote:

Arkansas and Georgia both have 1 Natty in Football


The only difference is that we can go see out trophy anytime we want... you have to drive to Tuscaloosa.

quote:

Give Green Bay back their G...The G on Georgia's Helmets stand for GAY.


Good one. Are you enjoying your summer? 3rd grade starts soon.
Posted by TheSwineAssault
The Delta
Member since Apr 2010
1623 posts
Posted on 6/28/16 at 10:39 am to
Go back to mommy's basement clown. You suck and your program is the most under performing in the country!!!
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