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re: Spinoff: Arkansas Fans, What is Your Program's Ceiling?
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:10 pm to cardboardboxer
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:10 pm to cardboardboxer
Arkansas IF they can recruit Texas and Louisiana could win a National Championship
It is yet to be seen if they can on a consistent basis
They thought by adding A&M and playing in Arlington they could like OU does with the Red River Game
It is yet to be seen if they can on a consistent basis
They thought by adding A&M and playing in Arlington they could like OU does with the Red River Game
This post was edited on 6/27/16 at 4:12 pm
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Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:12 pm to AggieMan2005
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Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:19 pm to rockiee
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Consistent NY6 bowls, It would take an amazing coach and a lot of things going right to win a NC here imo
I don't know about consistent, but I do know in '11, y'all would of had a hell of chance at a BCS title, if it wasn't for Bama and LSU both going insane that year.
Outside of the Big 6, y'all and A&M, are the only ones I think could win it all. Obviously much harder for you, and I don't mean that as a knock on y'all.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:27 pm to cardboardboxer
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Note: I am not asking for a recounting of the best Arkansas has done (aka the historical ceiling)
But that's the important key that you're leaving out here. Arkansas used to have teams comprised mainly of Texas players. After they withdrew from the SWC, they lost all of the Texas recruits along with it--LSU already held the monopoly on Texans who wanted to play in the nation's best conference--and Arkansas began to struggle.
Now that A&M has joined the conference, Arkansas and LSU seem to be losing more often as A&M attempts to wall off the Texas border from the other states that poach recruits there.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:31 pm to Tiger Live2
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I don't know about consistent, but I do know in '11, y'all would of had a hell of chance at a BCS title, if it wasn't for Bama and LSU both going insane that year.
Ya, those two teams being very up at that time hurt but the league wasn't as deep as it is now either. It was almost the same case in '10 but replace LSU with Auburn.
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Outside of the Big 6, y'all and A&M, are the only ones I think could win it all. Obviously much harder for you, and I don't mean that as a knock on y'all.
I don't think anyone really should take it as a knock, it is what it is. At times we slide into the top 4-6 teams in the league but it is really hard to maintain it. We might have the worst state of the SEC recruiting wise.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:34 pm to cardboardboxer
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I don't think everyone's ceiling is practically 15-0. Like that will never ever happen at a place like MSU or Kentucky. Ceiling is usually defined as the best you can realistically expect your program can do in your lifetime.
you're right before Saban came to LSU your programs ceiling wasn't as high as it is now. Everyone is just a coach away from winning it all or squandering everything the previous coach did.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:36 pm to rockiee
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Rockiee
Pot meet kettle
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:38 pm to Tiger Live2
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I don't know about consistent, but I do know in '11, y'all would of had a hell of chance at a BCS title, if it wasn't for Bama and LSU both going insane that year. Outside of the Big 6, y'all and A&M, are the only ones I think could win it all. Obviously much harder for you, and I don't mean that as a knock on y'all.
in 2006 we went undefeated in the SEC until the LSU game. Unfortunately we didn't get a redo like LSU did the following year after we beat them in their backyard
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:38 pm to piggilicious
Sure it's just fricking retarded. It's like saying all we need to do to be good is be good 
You need good recruits to start winning regularly and need to start winning regularly to get good recruits, bit of a catch 22 no?
You need good recruits to start winning regularly and need to start winning regularly to get good recruits, bit of a catch 22 no?
This post was edited on 6/27/16 at 4:40 pm
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:39 pm to Shakita Bonita
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Pot meet kettle
Not sure you know what that means
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:42 pm to TheDude321
You obviously don't follow recruiting.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:43 pm to swinetime
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in 2006 we went undefeated in the SEC until the LSU game. Unfortunately we didn't get a redo like LSU did the following year after we beat them in their backyard
Didn't y'all have another loss though? No knock on y'all, but its college sports. UF had the name to jump Michigan, Arkansas doesn't.
Kind of like Bama and OSU in '11. I still say if it had been OU, not Okie State, Bama doesn't get the redo.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:45 pm to Tiger Live2
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Didn't y'all have another loss though?
USC, first game of the season
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:46 pm to swinetime
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you're right before Saban came to LSU your programs ceiling wasn't as high as it is now.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:50 pm to WonderWartHawg
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The ceiling is the same place everybody else's is.
15-0.
No. Everyone knows Vandy does not have a 15-0 ceiling. Nor Kentucky. And nor Arkansas for that matter.
I can't fathom a world in which Arkansas is beating Alabama and LSU for recruits and winning National Titles. No rational thinking brain would be able to produce a thought like that.
I think when everything falls Arkansas' way, a 10-2 type of season is the best that they can hope for. They just aren't located in a region of the country in which there is a ton of talent nearby. Sure you've got Texas to the West, but when is Arkansas ever going to start getting their pick of the kids for Texas? It just isn't going to happen.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:53 pm to rockiee
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USC, first game of the season
Solid loss, I still don't think you would of jumped Michigan though, even beating LSU and UF. Comes down to the name on the front of the jersey.
If UK and LSU have the same resume in basketball, I would be shocked to see LSU get the same see or better.
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:53 pm to rockiee
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:56 pm to Shakita Bonita
Posted on 6/27/16 at 4:58 pm to swinetime
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n 2006 we went undefeated in the SEC until the LSU game. Unfortunately we didn't get a redo like LSU did the following year after we beat them in their backyard
Yes but Auburn could say the same thing about wishing they had a redo against the Hogs that same year. And I'm sure LSU fans were wishing they could have a redo for their game against Auburn.
The SEC West had 3 good teams that year: 7-1 Arkansas; 6-2 LSU; and 6-2 Auburn.
Auburn beat LSU... LSU beat Arkansas... Arkansas beat LSU.
These 3 were basically indistinguishable. The difference is that both LSU and Auburn had to play the eventual National Champs during the regular season: The Florida Gators. Arkansas caught Vandy in the rotation. Which is why the 3rd best team in the West was able to go to Atlanta.
Even in a "great" year for the Hogs, 10-2 during the regular season was the best they could muster.
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