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re: Sounds like Brandon Allen had a really rough scrimmage
Posted on 8/16/15 at 7:02 am to lefty08
Posted on 8/16/15 at 7:02 am to lefty08
At least JJ has an excuse as a backup.
Im talking about Brandon Allen padding his stats against 3 non P5 teams, you're talking about JJ padding his stats against Arkansas. So if you want to compare Arkansas to UAB, NIU, and Nicholls State then be my guess.
BA had 40% of his TDs in his only 3 games against non P5 teams, but 100% of his INTs in SEC play. I'm sorry but those kind of stats tell a clear story.
Hell, you could take away just the one game against 0-12 FCS Nicholls State and Allen's QB rating would drop significantly.
BA had 8 games against SEC teams and came away with bad numbers.
JJ in 1 half against Arkansas' starters put together what would far and away be Allen's best game.
Im talking about Brandon Allen padding his stats against 3 non P5 teams, you're talking about JJ padding his stats against Arkansas. So if you want to compare Arkansas to UAB, NIU, and Nicholls State then be my guess.
BA had 40% of his TDs in his only 3 games against non P5 teams, but 100% of his INTs in SEC play. I'm sorry but those kind of stats tell a clear story.
Hell, you could take away just the one game against 0-12 FCS Nicholls State and Allen's QB rating would drop significantly.
BA had 8 games against SEC teams and came away with bad numbers.
JJ in 1 half against Arkansas' starters put together what would far and away be Allen's best game.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 7:08 am to BowlJackson
You do realize it's normal forbstats to decrease when facing sec teams right. He played what was on his schedule last year, not sure why thats seen as a negative to you. Not 1 Arkansas fan thinks Allen will be all American. Trying to have a conversation with a troll such as yourself is like talking to a wall, yet we keep allowing you to speak. :cheers;
Posted on 8/16/15 at 7:17 am to BowlJackson
Let's take Allen out of the equation for a minute and examine the D he faced. Ark lost its best overall player and best LBs. That leaves their DL less effective and one of the least talented LB corps in the conference. I don't think the 2015 D comes close to matching the 2014 D even with the control the clock offense.
The fact Allen had a rough day vs a average (?) D does not bode well for Ark.
The fact Allen had a rough day vs a average (?) D does not bode well for Ark.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 7:25 am to Farmer1906
I don't expect the D to be worse this year. Losing 2 guys on the line is a gift. The line is The 1 place we actually have good depth. LB is a little scary. Nobody knew who Speight was before the season though, literally nobody saw him being the tackles leader.
It's not uncommon for the D to dominate the first scrimmage of the fall. Allen isn't great by any stretch but hes good enough to win a lot of games.
Auburns heisman qb couldn't lead his offense to a single TD in his first scrimmage against that D, but somehow the rules change for Brandon
It's not uncommon for the D to dominate the first scrimmage of the fall. Allen isn't great by any stretch but hes good enough to win a lot of games.
Auburns heisman qb couldn't lead his offense to a single TD in his first scrimmage against that D, but somehow the rules change for Brandon
Posted on 8/16/15 at 7:43 am to Farmer1906
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Ark lost its best overall player and best LBs. That leaves their DL less effective and one of the least talented LB corps in the conference
Who do you idiots think Arkansas replaced our losses with? Mannequins?
Posted on 8/16/15 at 7:47 am to Farmer1906
No one will disagree with you in that we last 3 good players on D (2 DL; 1 LB). However, things have also not remained constant. We have guys coming off redshirted and freshmen seasons (mixed with a couple of game 1 ready true freshmen) who will help fill the voids.
As unbiased as I can be, I think our front 7 on D will be same as last year by end of season again. May take a few games to find the groove (same as last year).
As unbiased as I can be, I think our front 7 on D will be same as last year by end of season again. May take a few games to find the groove (same as last year).
Posted on 8/16/15 at 7:48 am to ArmyHogs
The same people who couldn't name 3 players on our top 10 nationally ranked defense now say the defense will be horrible cause they can't name 3 players
Posted on 8/16/15 at 8:54 am to lefty08
Run game is in mid season form.
D doesn't appear to have lost anything.
Passing game isn't there yet, but looks like there is promise. TE is strong, 2 new receivers are burners. (Robinson and Reed).
Hogs gonna be just fine. Good luck.
D doesn't appear to have lost anything.
Passing game isn't there yet, but looks like there is promise. TE is strong, 2 new receivers are burners. (Robinson and Reed).
Hogs gonna be just fine. Good luck.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 9:09 am to Rzrbackguy
Here is a quick breakdown I ws reading the other day on Ark's LBs.
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To begin, they only have 11 on roster which seems kind of thin to begin with (not that our 13 is really that many more). The classification breakdown is 0 seniors, 3 Juniors, 3 Sophomores and 5 freshmen. The recruiting ranking breakdown is seven 3 stars and four 0 stars. Stars are not everything, but this leads to an average star rating of 1.82.
Looking at the juniors, only 2 of the guys have ever played a down, Brooks Ellis and Josh Williams. Brooks Ellis, a three star out of high school, is far and away the leading returning LB with 15 career starts and 105 career Tackles. Josh Williams, unrated out of hs, has seen action in 13 games with 2 starts and only 29 career tackles.
Only one of the sophomores have ever played and that is Khalia Hackett who appeard in 11 games, with no starts and only has 11 career tackles.
All told, the razorbacks only have 3 backers on the roster that have ever played a down of division one football. Those three players have a combined 17 career starts and 145 tackles with 88% of the starts and 72% of the tackles coming from one player (Brooks Ellis). Outside of Brooks Ellis, the entire unit has a grand total of 40 career tackles, playing time in 24 games and only 2 starts.
Comparing with their LB unit from last season is pretty interesting as well. They lost 4 LB's from last season: Daunte Carr, Braylon MItchell, Martell Spaight and Tiquention (all-sec name list right there) Coleman. Combined, these four accounted for 61% of the play and 60% of the tackles of the entire LB unit. In addition they account for 65% of the tackles for loss of the unit.
All said, this may be the worst linebacking unit I have seen in the sec west since we joined (and if you remember we had some pretty bad units). There are freshmen involved so there is room for them to surprise and maybe form a decent unit of really young guys, but I doubt it. Luckily for us, even if they are able to put together a serviceable unit, we get to play them very early on in the season so they will still be very green!
Posted on 8/16/15 at 9:18 am to Farmer1906
I like the way this thread started about BA but when that didn't work it devolved into the defense. Nice, now go find a list to post so you'll feel better about the a&m aggies.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 9:23 am to Farmer1906
Arkansas plays 3 spread teams before a&m. Hopefully we can work out any major kinks by then.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 9:24 am to Farmer1906
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Comparing with their LB unit from last season is pretty interesting as well. They lost 4 LB's from last season: Daunte Carr, Braylon MItchell, Martell Spaight and Tiquention (all-sec name list right there) Coleman. Combined, these four accounted for 61% of the play and 60% of the tackles of the entire LB unit. In addition they account for 65% of the tackles for loss of the unit.
The only person that mattered out of that grouping was Spaight. Josh Williams had 7 more tackles in his first year last season than Spaight had in his first year in '13 so going by that guys logic of looking at stats only we should be absurdly good this year. Clearly stats never tell the whole story.
Of the other three, Carr and TQ were special teams guys and Mitchell was our Sam who is infrequently used in this defense.
We primarily run in the Nickel and return Ellis who was the QB of the defense last year. The focus of Smith's defense is also to funnel plays to the Will which will be manned by Ellis this year who just happens to be our best LB.
Honestly, I'm not even remotely worried about our top 3 LB's at all. Where you could really make an arguement is the next three. Those 3 are virtual unknowns and cimprised of a RS FR, a walk-on RS FR and a true FR. That's where you should attack if you want to use the LB arguement.
This post was edited on 8/16/15 at 9:26 am
Posted on 8/16/15 at 9:25 am to Gladius Veritas
Bama had game manager QBs combined with transcendent WRs (Julio and Cooper) and some of the most talented defenses college football has ever seen.
Arky doesn't have either.
Arky doesn't have either.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 9:27 am to lowspark12
Arkansas also isn't vying for a national title. An efficient, game manager QB with last years team would have won 10 games. I think that is the consistent goal that we can shoot for in this system.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 9:29 am to TheCheshireHog
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An efficient, game manager QB with last years team would have won 10 games
Posted on 8/16/15 at 9:30 am to GoHoGsGo06
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Did we claim we did?
It's a common thing on the Rant to jump three levels in what the other fanbase is claiming and act like that was what was originally claimed.
Some will also say the entire fanbase is claiming something when it is usually just some rantard trolling on his own that happens to be a fan for that particular school.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 9:30 am to thunderbird1100
Sorry you don't watch football outside of LSU. I can't help you there.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 9:32 am to Roger Klarvin
Can I change my prediction from 8-4 to 4-8? Is it too late?
Posted on 8/16/15 at 9:35 am to TheCheshireHog
I was replying to a specific post that brought up alabama... he's not the first arkansas poster to draw comparisons between BA and bama's QBs under saban
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