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re: Sounds like Brandon Allen had a really rough scrimmage
Posted on 8/16/15 at 12:22 am to TheCheshireHog
Posted on 8/16/15 at 12:22 am to TheCheshireHog
Hate to burst your bubble, but Brandon Allen will not be winning any post-season awards. I guess it's an honor to just be mentioned on a list along with Kevin Ellison from Georgia Southern.
This post was edited on 8/16/15 at 12:23 am
Posted on 8/16/15 at 12:24 am to MrAUTigers
Did I say he would? Try to keep up.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 12:25 am to lefty08
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Im not saying BA will be betetr than Johnson, but we dont need him to be either
True, all Bert needs is a game manager. But even in his system an elite QB can make a huge difference. Case in point, Russell Wilson. In 2011 Bert brings in an elite experienced and already coached up QB and goes 11-3, wins the Big Ten Championship, and Bert very nearly gets his only Rose Bowl win. Those 3 losses were only by a combined 17 points.
2012 comes and Bert has to go back to his QBs and Joelol Stave leads Wisconsin to an 8-6 record. The 8th win only came because a down B1G and ineligible OSU allowed 7-5 Wiscy to stumble into the CCG and beat a Nebraska team that got blown out against the one decent team they played all season. Bert got ran out of town after that.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 12:31 am to BowlJackson
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Bert got ran out of town after that.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 12:32 am to BowlJackson
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Bert got ran out of town after that.
You actually put together a decent conversation for once and then you trot out this gem. It's hard to take anything you say serious at that point.
This post was edited on 8/16/15 at 12:33 am
Posted on 8/16/15 at 12:35 am to BowlJackson
Here's something to keep in mind. Arkansas has 5 quarterbacks who were rated as a 4* by at least one service, so quarterback shouldn't be a problem position for us. I think Chaney was the problem, but that's just an opinion.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 12:46 am to redeye
Well it's either that, he couldn't handle big bad Barry's bullying, or he was scared of Urban and OSU and got out of dodge before they were eligible for the postseason.
Unless you honestly believe that the dumpster fire that was Arkansas in 2012 was just so appealing that an established coach couldn't pass up the chance to leave the region he lived in his entire life, and his employer of 9 years where he was coming off 3 straight conference titles to risk his career at a school that's never won a conference title in it's current conference.
Unless you honestly believe that the dumpster fire that was Arkansas in 2012 was just so appealing that an established coach couldn't pass up the chance to leave the region he lived in his entire life, and his employer of 9 years where he was coming off 3 straight conference titles to risk his career at a school that's never won a conference title in it's current conference.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 12:47 am to Gladius Veritas
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that's the dumbest shite I've heard of. The most recent dynasty was built on game manager Qbs
Umm... If you're talking about Bama, both AJ and Blake could make throws when they needed, and Blake could scramble to make his own yards. Both were statistically top 3 in the conference. Just so happens three of the best QBs to ever play in he sec were their contemporaries(Dak, JFF, Shaw), so they were a little overshadowed. Don't get it twisted, BA is nowhere near Blake or chest tat, he just ain't.
Not to mention, they had supremely talented skill players all over the field. Plus, Saban.
This post was edited on 8/16/15 at 12:48 am
Posted on 8/16/15 at 12:47 am to BowlJackson
So you're just speculating and making things up as you go? Seems about right.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 12:50 am to TheCheshireHog
One thing is for sure about this place, everyone hates bert, and is as equally scared of what he can accomplish here
Its obvious in the way you guys post.
Its obvious in the way you guys post.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 12:51 am to redeye
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Arkansas has 5 quarterbacks who were rated as a 4* by at least one service
Brandon Allen is one of those 4*s you mention
Kiehl Frazier was a 5* by at least one service
point negated
Posted on 8/16/15 at 12:58 am to BowlJackson
Maybe he was hurt? Wasn't that the piggies excuse for losing to Mizzou last year: Allen had a booboo.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 12:58 am to Masterag
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Umm... If you're talking about Bama, both AJ and Blake could make throws when they needed,
Even Greg McElroy and John Parker Wilson were high quality game managers. McElroy got drafted and even started an NFL game. JPW even managed to last 4 seasons holding clipboards on active NFL rosters.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 12:59 am to VagueMessage
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Who even gives a frick, really. From what I remember, he didn't throw a pick during the season after the end of the MSU game. And I don't think he threw one at all during the spring. It's just practice.
I can think of worse QB woes. Alabama and LSU don't even have a real starter named, and Ole Miss' QB is Chad Kelly, which is worse than not even having one.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 1:01 am to RocketBallz
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Maybe he was hurt? Wasn't that the piggies excuse for losing to Mizzou last year: Allen had a booboo.
Well he was hurt. You'd have to be an idiot to have watched the game and not known it. Sorry you get offended by facts.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 1:03 am to RocketBallz
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Maybe he was hurt? Wasn't that the piggies excuse for losing to Mizzou last year: Allen had a booboo.
You couldn't tell he was hurt? He shouldn't have been playing and I blame Chaney for not having a backup ready.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 1:03 am to RocketBallz
That was their excuse for his abysmal stats in 2013. He did improve in 2014, his TD:INT ratio was respectable, but he was still less than impressive. Perhaps he managed to regain his confidence, but once a QB becomes a head case it's rare to overcome that. (Remember that last sentence LSU fans re: BH)
Posted on 8/16/15 at 1:28 am to BowlJackson
Head case? Just keep throwing shite at the wall. Something will stick.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 3:19 am to ocelot4ark
You can't deny that the guy had some serious confidence issues in 2013. Every time I saw him he had that same wide-eyed "deer in the headlights" look on his face that Kiehl Frazier and Clint Moseley always had at AU and the same one Brandon Harris had against Auburn last season. That same look returned to his face in the second half against Auburn last season when things got out of hand. I also remember that around mid-season last year that your fan base on here were ready forcibly remove BA as starter and were even unhappy with Big Bert. I didn't watch many of your games closely after that last year so maybe he regained his swagger with the rest of your team at the end of the year, so IDK.
I do know that it is very hard for a QB to shake confidence issues. That is why coaches don't like to start true freshmen. You make too many mistakes and lose your confidence or start to second guess your decisions and it has a negative effect on your game, you make even more mistakes, the cycle continues and it can ruin a career.
PS, BTW:
I posted in this thread earlier that BA had a respectable TD:INT ratio in 2014. After looking at his game log and seeing how he padded stats, I know now that is a lie. In the second game against Nicholls State he threw 5 passes, completing 4 for TDs. What a joke That's 20% of his TD passes coming against an 0-12 abomination of an FCS team that lost to 4-8 North Texas by 74
8/20 TDs came against 3 non-P5 teams.
All 5 of his INTS came in SEC play. Against SEC teams his TD:INT was 10:5 while completeing 54% of his passes.
Not much of an improvement over 2013 when you look at it like that.
I do know that it is very hard for a QB to shake confidence issues. That is why coaches don't like to start true freshmen. You make too many mistakes and lose your confidence or start to second guess your decisions and it has a negative effect on your game, you make even more mistakes, the cycle continues and it can ruin a career.
PS, BTW:
I posted in this thread earlier that BA had a respectable TD:INT ratio in 2014. After looking at his game log and seeing how he padded stats, I know now that is a lie. In the second game against Nicholls State he threw 5 passes, completing 4 for TDs. What a joke That's 20% of his TD passes coming against an 0-12 abomination of an FCS team that lost to 4-8 North Texas by 74
8/20 TDs came against 3 non-P5 teams.
All 5 of his INTS came in SEC play. Against SEC teams his TD:INT was 10:5 while completeing 54% of his passes.
Not much of an improvement over 2013 when you look at it like that.
Posted on 8/16/15 at 6:34 am to BowlJackson
What % of Jeremy Johnson's stats came against lowly Arkansas last year?
If we are gonna pick and choose which situations count let's do it both ways
If we are gonna pick and choose which situations count let's do it both ways
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