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Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:11 am to
Posted by BamainCFL
Tuscaloosa
Member since Sep 2009
653 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:11 am to
Does anyone have documented proof of the money UA gives to UAB every year?
I keep seeing it brought up and think it's a very valid point, just can't find any actual proof.

All of it should be public record
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
Member since Jan 2009
25607 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:13 am to
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They all seem to be sticking to making fun of anyone that actually seems to care about the subject.

To be honest this is the first thread I have posted in about UAB because they have all been complete shite shows. Maybe there has been some informative information somewhere, but I sure as hell couldn't find it because you have to wade through 15 pages of absolute fricking horse shite to see anything worth a damn.


It has been a shite show from way more fan bases than just Alabama. That's why I would use Google or Al.com to look for real information.
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:15 am to
quote:

just can't find any actual proof.

All of it should be public record



You would think.
Posted by MrLarson
Member since Oct 2014
34984 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:15 am to
Everyone knows why and some will be honest. You just have trolls on both sides that either want to defend UA or bash UA.

As far as caring about UAB football, I don't really care. However, I think almost all universities in the south use football to promote the university. So I think it hurts the university as a whole to shut down major athletic programs.

UAB is the largest employer in the state. Some idiot will come in here and blast away that REDSTONE is the largest, that might be true if you count the Federal Govt as an employer, which I don't.

So now you have the largest employer in the state which happens to be in the largest city in the state in the middle of a pissing contest with the most profitable AD in the south or even country. It all boils down to a power struggle playing out for all to see.
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:16 am to
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It has been a shite show from way more fan bases than just Alabama.


Sure, but my point still stands. I don't think there has been 1 Alabama fan on here that is capable of a serious discussion about the topic instead of blaming everyone else.
Posted by I-59 Tiger
Vestavia Hills, AL
Member since Sep 2003
36703 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:18 am to
Deep seeded. I really don't think the under 35 crowd cares other than to be lap dogs. Remember, Bear didn't want them to have a basketball team when it was founded in 1977. Wimp Sanderson and Gene Bartow were sworn enemies until about 10 yrs ago. Many otherwise intelligent BOT members over the years who were Tide fans did all they could to hinder UAB. They didn't even allow dorms until about 10 yrs ago.
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:18 am to
I want to be able to start a thread, and delete all replies that are not serious and informative.

It is beyond frustrating to try to have a serious conversation here.
Posted by boXerrumble
Member since Sep 2011
52279 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:18 am to
quote:

Somebody please explain to me why Alabama would give ...


By shutting down UAB's program, Alabama's board:

1) Can dump even more money into Bama football
2) Can steer recruits considering UAB to Bama
3) Can convert UAB fans to Bama fans
4) Claim Saban made another program quit

Did I miss anything?
Posted by sjmabry
Texas
Member since Aug 2013
18498 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:19 am to
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It seems it matters a lot to UT, AU, and LSU fans.
LSU fans don't give a shite, baw.
Posted by GregAl
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
3659 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:21 am to
I personally would like to see UAB football continue. However, it seems this was a business decision more than anything else. I am sure the millions and millions lost on a football program that very few people follow can be put to better use on campus.

I would think that after a couple of years they will start again with non-scholarship team and work themselves up like South Alabama did. They need a modest stadium on campus (see Samford) and a good public relations team to get Birmingham interested.
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
Member since Jan 2009
25607 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:21 am to
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I don't think there has been 1 Alabama fan on here that is capable of a serious discussion about the topic instead of blaming everyone else.


How do you know? You haven't waded through the 15 pages of BS in the other threads. Singling out a fan base for not having serious discussion on this matter is dumb. It's been coming from all sides. Bama fans aren't the only ones capable (nor do they have the responsibility) of providing links and numbers. We don't have secret access to records that yall don't have.

Check out the MSB. Been some good links in threads on there.
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:22 am to
quote:

it seems this was a business decision more than anything else


I don't think it seems like that at all.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20495 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:25 am to
quote:

Does anyone have documented proof of the money UA gives to UAB every year?


UA does NOT give any money to UAB. There are no commingled funds between the universities, ESPECIALLY the athletic departments. Only a truly illiterate frick wouldn't know this.
Posted by GregAl
Mobile
Member since Aug 2014
3659 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:26 am to
quote:

I don't think it seems like that at all.


Anything to back up your thoughts?
Posted by Pettifogger
Capitol Hill Autonomous Zone
Member since Feb 2012
79160 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:29 am to
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If all these Aubbies would put their money where their mouths are, they could save poor UAB football.



We feel obliged to cheer for the school we went to. Most Alabama fans don't have that pressure, so I think the blame is squarely on the Tide Nation.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20495 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:31 am to
quote:

I am sure the millions and millions lost on a football program that very few people follow can be put to better use on campus.


UAB football didn't lose any money. It was a break even proposition.

All this is, is a means to balance the budget. Eliminating football costs you nothing, but it is the only way you can begin scaling back on Title IX money losers that cost you $17 million per year.
Posted by DynastyDawg
Relf-Coast
Member since Jan 2013
10886 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:32 am to
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Anything to back up your thoughts?



Well the one quote from the UAB President yesterday saying it was not about money is certainly a place to start.
Posted by Evolved Simian
Bushwood Country Club
Member since Sep 2010
20495 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:33 am to
quote:

We feel obliged to cheer for the school we went to.


Fully half of UAB undergrads are primarily AU fans.
Posted by NorthGwinnettTiger
Member since Jun 2006
51819 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:34 am to
quote:

UAB football didn't lose any money. It was a break even proposition.

All this is, is a means to balance the budget. Eliminating football costs you nothing, but it is the only way you can begin scaling back on Title IX money losers that cost you $17 million per year.


South Alabama costs 15.2 million. Troy is 12.9 million. Should they be next?
Posted by bamafan425
Jackson's Hole
Member since Jan 2009
25607 posts
Posted on 12/3/14 at 8:37 am to
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Well the one quote from the UAB President yesterday saying it was not about money is certainly a place to start.


He said it wasn't about financial woes.

Big difference than saying it's not about money. Read the al.com article or listen to his whole speech.

He also said:"We didn't expect this outcome from the strategic plan, but the realities of collegiate athletics and costs involved today clearly drive this decision."
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