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re: So Smart demanded "full disclosure of the state of the NCAA’s current look-see"

Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:16 am to
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:16 am to
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so you're saying that after a coach takes his team to the NC game he shouldn't be allowed to coach in that game? What a DA.


I am saying it is up to the new employer. If the new employer wants you to start now, you start now if you want the job.

Not when it is convenient to you.
Posted by elit4ce05
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:17 am to
But that doesn't matter. The fact that it is Bama makes it different. Anything that can be done to prevent Bama from winning the BCSNCG makes sense to the aubies.First you pray that one of their starters is suspended then you think one of their coaches shouldn't coach. All the while, thinking it is ok for their future coach to coach his bowl game. That makes sense.
Posted by elit4ce05
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:18 am to
So au wants the coach to start now? How do you explain the fact that malzahn is coaching in his bowl game?
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 8:19 am
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:20 am to
The fans might think that but I'm pretty sure the same hatred that flows through the fan base for Alabama is not as present in the administration. If it was, Smart would have never been granted an interview in the first place.

Posted by Smoke7024
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:20 am to
He already started. He called Dee Liner last night.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:21 am to
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So au wants the coach to start now? How do you explain the fact that malzahn is coaching in his bowl game?


I think there is a different time and level of commitment it will take for Gus to coach Arky state in their bowl than continuing to work under saban preparing for the BCSNCG. Also, I guess I am wrong about the rival part mattering. I do not think it should, but maybe it did, which I think is a mistake.
Posted by alabamabuckeye
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:21 am to
Smart trolling the Aubs
Posted by elit4ce05
Member since Jun 2011
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:24 am to
so he's NOT coaching iin the bowl game? Don't try to spin it. The stipulation was to be allowed to coach in the BCSNCG. Which all the aubies in here say that is the reason he wasn't hired. Yet by letting malzahn coach in the bowl game says that was not the stipulation that led to the non-hiring. So that just leaves 2 others. Either au did not want to give him full access to what is going on with the NCAA or they didn't want to give him the authority to hire and fire staff members as he saw fit. Obviously, gus was willing to go along with that.
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:24 am to
So......


Scarbo is so plugged into the Auburn coaching search that he has full details into what Smart demanded from Auburn and vice versa, however he didn't break the Gus news? Dumbass.

Just do us a favor OP: you and your fellow Finebum Bammers just keep this kind of shite at the trailer park or on the radio and leave us alone.
Posted by undecided
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:24 am to
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Auburn told him there were not major NCAA issues, he had listened to the Bama party line.

His attitude was a major concern. He questioned the committees integrity. Showed a lack of maturity. Came off as arrogant and immature.

This may be why he is still at Bama. He has listened to the hype for so long that he feels he should get the Saban treatment without being independently successful.

The Miami and Penn State situations have absolutely nothing in common with Auburn. Both schools had documented evidence of wrongdoing while the only thing surrounding Auburn are the same message board generated, Danny Sheridan approved, Forde/Thamel/Thayer approved, allegations that have been there for years. If Smart wasn't "smart" enough to know the difference, then oh well

Regerding not giving up full control of the program, if Auburn wanted a puppet they could have hired Petrino, who was willing to bend over backwards for the job.

Nevertheless, Kirby can remain in Tuscaloosa and wait for Saban to retire. Bama should just hope they dont end up with another Bill Curry throwing bricks thru his window to get out of town
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 8:30 am
Posted by Evolved Simian
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:25 am to
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3 is laughable. The dead period starts in 11 days. The new AU coach needs to be doing EVERYTHING possible immediately to put his staff together and ensure the current top 10 class stays together and try to add to it. Continuing to coach your old team is a laughable deal breaker. The fact it is a rival is not relevant.



Perhaps, but I'm sure he would have conceded #3. #2 is certainly reasonable, but I'd be willing to bet that it was what caused the breakdown in negotiations.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:25 am to
quote:

Scarbo is so plugged into the Auburn coaching search that he has full details into what Smart demanded from Auburn and vice versa, however he didn't break the Gus news? Dumbass.

Just do us a favor OP: you and your fellow Finebum Bammers just keep this kind of shite at the trailer park or on the radio and leave us alone.


Right back at ya... people shouldn't be pursuing rival coaches if they don't want their sewerage leaked to the press.
Posted by Tiger n Miami AU83
Miami
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:28 am to
quote:

Perhaps, but I'm sure he would have conceded #3. #2 is certainly reasonable, but I'd be willing to bet that it was what caused the breakdown in negotiations.


I think you may be right. And I think it may have to do with keeping our current recruiting class held together. Not any NCAA bullshite, that is a ridiculous line of thinking. A coach that went to the NCAA about his former school cheating would be done in coaching pretty much forever. The blackest of black lists.
Posted by Smoke7024
Member since Jun 2010
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:30 am to
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Don't try to spin it.


Spin what? He said in his press conference last night that he still had to talk to them about that. I don't know if he's coaching the bowl game or not. Please tell me what spin you're referring to?
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:30 am to
My point is simple: there is no way Scarbo knows any of this. He didn't even know Auburn was gonna hire Gus! How could he possibly know the details of the Smart interview less than 12hrs after we make a hire? It's a bunch of bullshite that any reasonably intelligent person can see through.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:32 am to
Well, he certainly heard about all of the anti Chizik behavior that he wrote about last week and that Philip Marshall wrote about too. I assume people leak what they want when they have an agenda and don't leak what they don't want people to know.
Posted by elit4ce05
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:32 am to
as quoted"Continuing to coach your old team is a laughable deal breaker.

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yet malzahn is coaching HIS bowl game yet he was hired. So obviously that was not the main reason.
Posted by labamafan
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2007
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:33 am to
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If Auburn had NCAA sanctions coming down on them why would we fire Chizik. We could save 7 million, and if it was bowl ban bad he's already doing that without sanctions.



I am sure that 7 million is contingent upon the impending Investigation. Not a flame but that is just smart business.
Posted by Crimson Legend
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:37 am to
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95% of the bams in this thread thought the dial hit was legal.


Good point. How can you possibly trust the opinion of people who agreed with the official standing right next to it? Clearly delusional and corrupt.
Posted by Bellabama
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Posted on 12/5/12 at 8:38 am to
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This may be why he is still at Bama. He has listened to the hype for so long that he feels he should get the Saban treatment without being independently successful.


You think the only people who are allowed transparency are successful people?

quote:


The Miami and Penn State situations have absolutely nothing in common with Auburn. Both schools had documented evidence of wrongdoing while the only thing surrounding Auburn are the same message board generated, Danny Sheridan approved, Forde/Thamel/Thayer approved, allegations that have been there for years. If Smart wasn't "smart" enough to know the difference, then oh well


It's good business to ask questions when there have been third party inquiries. To blame him, when Auburn pursued him to begin with, is a little absurd. Taking someone at their word when an investigation is involved in any business just seems a little naive to me.
This post was edited on 12/5/12 at 8:39 am
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