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re: So much for the 2012 Johnny being a fluke
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:35 am to Hugh McElroy
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:35 am to Hugh McElroy
quote:Exactly. Yes luck was involved. But so was an extreme amount of skill to avoid the sack and a heads up play to know the situation.
Yes, he was lucky it was completed. Yes, it was a brilliant play.
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Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:36 am to lsupride87
Interpolate all you want, that play was a 'fluke' if there ever was one. Smart? I don't think so. ''What's the worst that can happen? Bama returns it? Psha, phooey with that.''
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:36 am to lsupride87
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You said, "How can you call it anything but lucky" Well, i call it smart and lucky. Get it?
He could have gained a few yards to get a FG, it could have been pic 6'ed. There was nothing smart about it.
Hindsight of the outcome allows you to call it smart now.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:37 am to LNCHBOX
quote:What about the first part of the play where he somehow avoids a sure sack, then the second part where he throws it 40+ yards off his back foot? That took an unreal amount of athleticism. The play involved luck and brilliance
A lucky lob into the air while falling down is not
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:37 am to LNCHBOX
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He could have gained a few yards to get a FG, it could have been pic 6'ed
This right here. The thing is: If that play had been unsuccessful NONE of you would be claiming it was skill. All of you would be saying: Well that's what happens when you throw it late down the middle off of your back foot while falling down.
This post was edited on 11/13/13 at 9:39 am
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:38 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
quote:They could return a punt for a td as well. It is common football knowledge that throwing the ball deep downfield on third down is a smart play.
Interpolate all you want, that play was a 'fluke' if there ever was one. Smart? I don't think so. ''What's the worst that can happen? Bama returns it? Psha, phooey with that.''
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:38 am to lsupride87
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What about the first part of the play where he somehow avoids a sure sack
Doesn't matter, throwing it up for grabs that close to FG range and risking an INT is not smart.
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The play involved luck and brilliance
You got that half right. You can't use hindsight to call it brilliant. It was lucky. That's it.
I'm not saying JFF isn't great, but that play isn't a great demonstration of his brilliance.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:40 am to LNCHBOX
quote:Are you ignoring the first half of the play where he avoided a sack for a loss of 10+ yards?
I'm not saying JFF isn't great, but that play isn't a great demonstration of his brilliance.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:40 am to StrawsDrawnAtRandom
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StrawsDrawnAtRandom
There's a difference between a QB who's in sync with his receivers, knows what they can do, and gives them an opportunity to perform and a QB who's just throwing up prayers hoping receivers will "bail him out."
Someday when your team has a half decent QB again, you might realize that.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:41 am to LNCHBOX
There's a lot less control in an interception than there is in a punt.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:41 am to lsupride87
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Are you ignoring the first half of the play where he avoided a sack for a loss of 10+ yards?
The important part of that play is the completion. The throw being completed was 100% luck. How are you not getting this?
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:42 am to Projectpat
quote:Exactly. We have the same situation with Mett and Landry. It isn't a bail out when it keeps happening over and over and over
There's a difference between a QB who's in sync with his receivers, knows what they can do, and gives them an opportunity to perform and a QB who's just throwing up prayers hoping receivers will "bail him out."
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:42 am to Projectpat
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There's a difference between a QB who's in sync with his receivers, knows what they can do, and gives them an opportunity to perform and a QB who's just throwing up prayers hoping receivers will "bail him out."
You cannot say on that play JFF knew his receiver would come down with that. Come on.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:42 am to LNCHBOX
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Doesn't matter, throwing it up for grabs that close to FG range and risking an INT is not smart.
After he completes one of these on you next week and crushes your team's hopes and dreams, at least you can sit there in your recliner and talk about how much smarter you are than him.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:43 am to LNCHBOX
quote:He avoided a twenty yard sack that would have completely put them out of fg range. But yeh, thats not important
The important part of that play is the completion
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:43 am to Projectpat
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Someday when your team has a half decent QB again, you might realize that.
Kind of hilarious that Driskel beat you guys last year in your house.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:43 am to lsupride87
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Exactly. We have the same situation with Mett and Landry. It isn't a bail out when it keeps happening over and over and over
If Mett made that same kind of throw to Landry with that many defenders around, I'd be the first to tell you it was nothing other than dumb luck.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:44 am to lsupride87
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He avoided a twenty yard sack that would have completely put them out of fg range. But yeh, thats not important
You're clearly an idiot. You're never going to get it.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:45 am to LNCHBOX
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You cannot say on that play JFF knew his receiver would come down with that. Come on.
I understand that your years of watching Mett, JJ, and Lee makes throws like that seem like the worst idea ever, but after watching Johnny complete those passes time after time after time after time...calling it luck just makes you look stupid.
Posted on 11/13/13 at 9:45 am to lsupride87
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He avoided a twenty yard sack that would have completely put them out of fg range. But yeh, thats not important
Could have also thrown it away and not risked anything. Like he's been saying: You're using hindsight to justify the pass when if he hadn't and it had been returned for a touchdown (pic six) you would not be saying the same thing.
''Pic six aside, that was a good decision.'' Lol.
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