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re: SECr, I have to ask. Will Todd Gurley be a first round pick next year?
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:21 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:21 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
I dont know, I think someone may take him in the 1st. Just depends on how deep the field plays out when graded. If there is a a plethora of equally rated players at more critical positions I dont think he will go in the 1st.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:21 pm to Scoob
Good god don't let him go to the saints
Posted on 5/11/14 at 4:51 pm to CarolinaCock
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Absolutely not.
Lol.
Walter Football has him going 10th
CBSSports has him at 18
USA Today also has him at 18
SBNation has him at 12
Oh look, another one has him at 12.
If he stays healthy, and there's no reason to think he won't, he'll go
in the first round.
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Gurley's already shown signs of nagging injuries.
He had his ankle rolled on the sideline. He missed 3 games and played through the pain and was still better than most backs in the league. He's 100% healthy right now. I don't know where you dipshits get that he has a history of injury. He's not pulling muscles or tearing ACL's every year. It was an injury that happened at point of contact and would have happened to anyone.
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Very few 6ft+ backs have made a large impact at the next level as an every down back.
(I know Herschel wasn't a great NFL back but you get the point)
Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:02 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
He should be but with injuries (even recovered ones - they'll say 'durability' is a question mark whether it's fair or not) and the NFL not drafting RBs as high as they used to I don't know.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:04 pm to Prof
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Matt Miller @nfldraftscout · 14m I know RBs aren't trendy right now, but I have a huge crush on TJ Yeldon, Todd Gurley, Mike Davis, Karlos Williams and Melvin Gordon
Matt Miller of Bleacher Report. I know, BR, but this isn't actually from BR. It's from Twitter.
Gurley is the only one with first round potential, imo. The rest are second and third round guys right now. Don't see any of them having even a slim shot at being first rounders. Gurley quite possibly could be though.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:08 pm to CarolinaCock
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The shelf life of the avg running back is 3yrs in the nfl.
Link?
ETA- he's as good of a receiver as any of the receivers taken in the 1st round this year.. for that fact alone he'll be taken in the first round.
This post was edited on 5/11/14 at 5:12 pm
Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:32 pm to deeprig9
UGA fans, another question.
Will Gurley and Yeldon forever be compared to each other? After their freshman season, there was a big debate about who was truly better. Gurley pulled away this past season. All Spring Yeldon seemed pissed that he was getting overlooked despite being well on his way into the Bama school record books. Gurley's still better, in my opinion, but do we have ourselves Julio vs AJ between the two schools, but at the RB position? Even in the NFL the two are still constantly compared to each other. For the record, I'd say Green won the first year, push the second year, and Julio WAS winning the third year, but then he got hurt. So, make of the third year what you will.
Anyway, Yeldon/Gurley the next Jones/Green for Bama/UGA?
Will Gurley and Yeldon forever be compared to each other? After their freshman season, there was a big debate about who was truly better. Gurley pulled away this past season. All Spring Yeldon seemed pissed that he was getting overlooked despite being well on his way into the Bama school record books. Gurley's still better, in my opinion, but do we have ourselves Julio vs AJ between the two schools, but at the RB position? Even in the NFL the two are still constantly compared to each other. For the record, I'd say Green won the first year, push the second year, and Julio WAS winning the third year, but then he got hurt. So, make of the third year what you will.
Anyway, Yeldon/Gurley the next Jones/Green for Bama/UGA?
Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:41 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Will Gurley and Yeldon forever be compared to each other?
It sure looks that way. Especially after the 2012 SECC game.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 5:42 pm to gatorhata9
One more go in the 2014 SECCG to send them off?
Posted on 5/11/14 at 6:01 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
If he remains healthy...undoubtedly.
And not because of his running ability. More because of his receiving ability. Seems that NFL teams place a higher premium on versatility than pure power. Gurley is the most talented college RB coming out if the backfield as a receiver in a while. If he stays healthy, that is why he will go first round.
And not because of his running ability. More because of his receiving ability. Seems that NFL teams place a higher premium on versatility than pure power. Gurley is the most talented college RB coming out if the backfield as a receiver in a while. If he stays healthy, that is why he will go first round.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 6:12 pm to Dick Leverage
No doubt he will go in the 1st if misses no games. He has Clowney like ability, that is, he was one of the best running backs every year he has been in college. Another solid year will definitely put him in the 1st, but perhaps top 15.
When was the last rb to come out with Gurleys abilities? AP?
When was the last rb to come out with Gurleys abilities? AP?
Posted on 5/11/14 at 6:14 pm to dawgsjw
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When was the last rb to come out with Gurleys abilities? AP?
Richardson arguably had more ability, but his vision was shite.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 6:16 pm to deeprig9
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Link?
key word in the shitty statistic is "average." the shelf life of a first round running back is pretty damn good. there are a ton of shitty running backs, more so than at other positions probably. tons of shitty RBs burn out and make people think they have a cool statistic on their hand, but they dont.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 6:16 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Anyone that compares Gurley to Yeldon is just dumb.. Gurley is miles better and it isn't even close
Posted on 5/11/14 at 6:19 pm to TigerBait2008
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Anyone that compares Gurley to Yeldon is just dumb.. Gurley is miles better and it isn't even close
If you take away Yeldon's fumbles, which you can't, it would be quite the debate. Yeldon has amazingly quick feet and is just so smooth. Makes people miss and shows flashes of power to finish runs. Plus I'd say he's the better pass protector.
That said, Gurley is better imo.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 6:26 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
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Richardson arguably had more ability, but his vision was shite.
Gurley has Richardson's physical skill-set with elite vision.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 6:27 pm to gatorhata9
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Gurley has Richardson's physical skill-set with elite vision.
Truth.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 6:31 pm to AllBamaDoesIsWin
Yeldon ran behind a much better O-Line than Gurley. Yeldon is a great runningback , but Gurley is the better runningback and athlete.
Posted on 5/11/14 at 6:40 pm to RiverParishLegend
I posted this back in January, re-posting here...
Playing hurt basically the whole year in 2013. He got hurt in the opener vs Clemson and only played the first quarter. Then in week 4 vs LSU he had the ankle injury that kept him out of 3 games, and then he returned, playing through pain, and clearly a little out of shape.
2013 Stats.... (got my numbers from espn and did the math with win8 calculator)
6.0 yards per carry is tied with a healthy TJ Yeldon.
Gurley's longest of the year was 75. The second longest was 30. His season YPC stat isn't skewed with very many breakaway field burners.
When Gurley touched the ball, he scored a touchdown 8% of the time (16 touchdowns divided by 202 carries+receptions)
Tre Mason's TD to Touch ratio was 7%.
Jeremy Hill.......................7.2%
TJ Yeldon........................ 6%
Mike Davis........................4.6%
Alex Collins......................2%
Playing hurt basically the whole year in 2013. He got hurt in the opener vs Clemson and only played the first quarter. Then in week 4 vs LSU he had the ankle injury that kept him out of 3 games, and then he returned, playing through pain, and clearly a little out of shape.
2013 Stats.... (got my numbers from espn and did the math with win8 calculator)
6.0 yards per carry is tied with a healthy TJ Yeldon.
Gurley's longest of the year was 75. The second longest was 30. His season YPC stat isn't skewed with very many breakaway field burners.
When Gurley touched the ball, he scored a touchdown 8% of the time (16 touchdowns divided by 202 carries+receptions)
Tre Mason's TD to Touch ratio was 7%.
Jeremy Hill.......................7.2%
TJ Yeldon........................ 6%
Mike Davis........................4.6%
Alex Collins......................2%
Posted on 5/11/14 at 6:51 pm to deeprig9
I'm with you on all that, but there is gonna be the argument that with Keith Marshall only playing in five games, Gurley was his team's only real viable scoring option out of the backfield.
Those other guys all had 1 or 2 other guys who were threats. Mason had Marshall. Hill had Magee. Yeldon had Drake. Davis sorta had Shaw as a run threat. Collins had Williams.
So the argument there is the other guys had TDs taken away because of other viable scoring options. I don't 100% agree with that notion, but it's an argument with some validity.
Those other guys all had 1 or 2 other guys who were threats. Mason had Marshall. Hill had Magee. Yeldon had Drake. Davis sorta had Shaw as a run threat. Collins had Williams.
So the argument there is the other guys had TDs taken away because of other viable scoring options. I don't 100% agree with that notion, but it's an argument with some validity.
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