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Posted on 11/12/15 at 1:51 pm to Draconian Sanctions
And LSU is rivals with a school like that 
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:00 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:04 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Arkansas finished #2 in both polls for the 1964 season. At that point in history, bowl games were exhibitions. The fact that Arkansas won their bowl and Alabama lost theirs did not matter as neither major poll considered bowl results in their determination of who the champion for that year was.
You're trying way too hard to pretend that the FWAA poll doesnt exist. Its pretty adorable. Whatever distracts you from the knowledge that your defense will get absolutely shite on this weekend
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:14 pm to The_Joker
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You're trying way too hard to pretend that the FWAA poll doesnt exist.
I don't care about the FWAA or the Dunkel Index or the Fayettvile Dry Cleaners Association poll. The AP and the UPI/Coaches are the only 2 major selectors and if you didn't finish #1 in either of them, you weren't National Champions. Period.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:15 pm to HogFanfromHTown
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actually believe they didn't win it.
the voters in 1964 don't believe it either.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:18 pm to Draconian Sanctions
I dont think the Fayetteville Dry cleaners present the Outland or Nagurski trophies every year. Keep trying to convince yourself. Go on
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:19 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Arkansas finished #2 in both polls for the 1964 season. At that point in history, bowl games were exhibitions. The fact that Arkansas won their bowl and Alabama lost theirs did not matter as neither major poll considered bowl results in their determination of who the champion for that year was.
The AP changed their procedure the following season to account for bowl results. #2 Arkansas had a chance to win their first National Title if they could win the Cotton Bowl against LSU as #1 Michigan State lost the Rose Bowl against UCLA.
They failed, losing 14-7 to big bro, and to this day Arkansas still has not won a national title in football.
This one is easy.
#2 Arkansas 11-0 with a win over #3 Texas and #6 Nebraska.
#1 Alabama 10-1 with a Loss to #3 Texas who Arkansas beat.
"A five-member committee of the Football Writers Association of America awarded the University of Arkansas Razorbacks the "Grantland Rice Trophy" as the #1 team in a poll taken after the bowl games. The Helms Athletic Foundation, which also took polls after the bowl games, named Arkansas as 1964 National Champions."
Arkansas was the 1964 National Champion on the field and by various Polls.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:20 pm to The_Joker
Just because you hand out a few post season awards, that doesn't automatically make your poll a major selector.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:21 pm to SunHog
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This one is easy.
#2 Arkansas 11-0 with a win over #3 Texas and #6 Nebraska.
#1 Alabama 10-1 with a Loss to #3 Texas who Arkansas beat.
Arkansas finished #2 in both polls for the 1964 season. At that point in history, bowl games were exhibitions. The fact that Arkansas won their bowl and Alabama lost theirs did not matter as neither major poll considered bowl results in their determination of who the champion for that year was.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:25 pm to Draconian Sanctions
So you gotta finish #1 in the AP, huh? I guess that derails LSU's claim to the 2003 title, then.
It's cute how LSU dickrides Alabama before it's Superbowl game against Arkansas.
It's cute how LSU dickrides Alabama before it's Superbowl game against Arkansas.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:27 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Just because you hand out a few post season awards, that doesn't automatically make your poll a major selector.
Nope. But I'd say still being on the trophy table well after the poll champion era ended makes you one.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:29 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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Arkansas finished #2 in both polls for the 1964 season. At that point in history, bowl games were exhibitions. The fact that Arkansas won their bowl and Alabama lost theirs did not matter as neither major poll considered bowl results in their determination of who the champion for that year was.
"Arkansas and Alabama legitimately claim the 1964 National Championship, since all selectors of national title teams are documented in the official 2010 NCAA FBS College Football Record Book."
You don't need a journalist to tell you who the best team was in 1964.
Arkansas 11-0 over Texas and Nebraska.
Alabama 10-1 with a loss to Texas.
If you don't like Arkansas having a national title feel free to write a complaint to the College Football Record Books.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:30 pm to SunHog
The NCAA has never sanctioned a college football national champion. What they do or don't put on their website is completely irrelevant.
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Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:36 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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The NCCA has never sanctioned a college football national champion. What they do or don't put on their website is completely irrelevant.
Correct, LSU has 0 just like Alabama according to the NCAA.
I guess that leaves VARIOUS polls picking national champions, doesn't it? You just want to ignore the Football Writes Association of America and Helms Athletic Foundation who picked #1 Arkansas as National Champions because they could actually see what a properly undefeated season looked like.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:36 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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The NCAA has never sanctioned a college football national champion. What they do or don't put on their website is completely irrelevant.
So what you're saying is that anyone can claim a national title and it's as legit as any?
We've had this argument before, and while you're right, you also fail to acknowledge that the NCAA does recognize some national titles, but not others. That's why they have it on their website.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:36 pm to redeye
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So you gotta finish #1 in the AP, huh? I guess that derails LSU's claim to the 2003 title, then.
Can you read? #1 in the AP or the UPI/Coaches. Although really in the BCS era it's who took home the crystal. Still, 2003 USC has a legit claim to a split title.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:38 pm to redeye
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So what you're saying is that anyone can claim a national title and it's as legit as any?
No. Legit claims are those who were chose #1 by one of the two major selectors.
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:41 pm to smallmouth
Grantland Rice trophy you Alabama morons. There are pictures of Saban with them today. Are you saying those aren't valid?
Dumbasses. Claim it if you want, there aren't many you don't
Dumbasses. Claim it if you want, there aren't many you don't
Posted on 11/12/15 at 2:42 pm to Draconian Sanctions
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#1 in the AP or the UPI/Coaches. Although really in the BCS era it's who took home the crystal. Still, 2003 USC has a legit claim to a split title.
Oh, so it's the AP or the Coaches, but not the FWAA?
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No. Legit claims are those who were chose #1 by one of the two major selectors.
Selectors that YOU consider legit. The NCAA considers the FWAA legit, but you don't.
Either way, we were the ONLY team to finish undefeated, and from 64-66, the only team to have a 22 game win streak.
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