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re: SEC distributes 31m per school

Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:03 pm to
Posted by reedus23
St. Louis
Member since Sep 2011
25485 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:03 pm to
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So aTm and Mizzou are making 6 mil more over here than they would have been in the B12.



And the reality is that the other schools in the Big 12 wouldn't be getting even 25 million if A&M and MU hadn't left. First, the conference would have continued on with their uneven distributions. That only changed in an effort to try to get A&M and MU to stay. Second, they're only splitting that between 10 schools. Had A&M and MU stayed and the Big 12 still grabbed 2 schools to keep up with the Joneses, that amount would be even less. So not only has the SEC been kind to A&M and MU, but the Big tejas schools can thank us as well.
Posted by Gradual_Stroke
Bee Cave, TX
Member since Oct 2012
20917 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:04 pm to
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Not all schools should get the same amount.


You're a complete fricking idiot
This post was edited on 5/29/15 at 1:05 pm
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:04 pm to
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Each Big 12 school is getting 25 million, except Texas who gets 40 million for having the LHN as well.


Naw. They don't get $15 million for the LHN. IMG and their academic side takes off a sizeable chunk. It's only about $9-10.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:07 pm to
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And the reality is that the other schools in the Big 12 wouldn't be getting even 25 million if A&M and MU hadn't left. First, the conference would have continued on with their uneven distributions. That only changed in an effort to try to get A&M and MU to stay. Second, they're only splitting that between 10 schools. Had A&M and MU stayed and the Big 12 still grabbed 2 schools to keep up with the Joneses, that amount would be even less. So not only has the SEC been kind to A&M and MU, but the Big tejas schools can thank us as well.



And at the moment, TCU and WVU are still getting unequal shares. This year it was only 85% I believe. For the remaining 8 members that's probably only an extra million, but it still matters.
Posted by RT1941
Member since May 2007
30193 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:07 pm to
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Not all schools should get the same amount.
bullshite - that's Big12 talk.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54617 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:09 pm to
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The B1G will keep up. Their current numbers are close, and their Tier 1 deal is up in 2016. Since this will be the last major conference Tier 1 deal to go on the market for a LONG time many expect the bidding to be kinda crazy. Enough to erase the gap between the B1G Network and the SEC Network.


Bears repeating…

B1G has markets
SEC has content

This will keep both far ahead of the other P5 schools with the B1G getting the top numbers just because of populations not necessarily from product.
Posted by Don Johnson
Member since Dec 2010
520 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:13 pm to
This SEC number includes tier 3. Tier 3 has never been included in the revenue distribution before as each schools negotiated its own. Most schools made $5-10 million off their tier 3 deals. Now that is all included in the SECN.

The Big 12 figure does not include Tier 3. Once those schools factor their tier 3 revenue in, Texas, OU, KU and probably a few others absolutely matched the SEC's $31 million figure.
Posted by Jobu93
Cypress TX
Member since Sep 2011
19202 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:20 pm to
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Not all schools should get the same amount.


Go sit facing the corner and think about what you've said.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54617 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:21 pm to
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This SEC number includes tier 3


Not exactly…

Tier III is the catchall for everything that is not Tier I or Tier II and Alabama and Kentucky left IMG in the past year or so and both are now represented by the West Coast. Since IMG College (formed from CLC (Alabama roots) and Host Communications (Kentucky roots) it was a major departure that may lead other SEC schools to now leave IMG as well. Part of Alabama and Kentucky's deal is considered Tier III and adds about 10 million per year to each school that each school keeps for itself.
Posted by TeLeFaWx
Dallas, TX
Member since Aug 2011
29177 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:22 pm to
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The Big 12 figure does not include Tier 3. Once those schools factor their tier 3 revenue in, Texas, OU, KU and probably a few others absolutely matched the SEC's $31 million figure.


Maybe this year, but over the next 5, and especially in 2023 when the SEC and Big 12's tier 1 rights go up for sale, it will be a completely different story.
Posted by texasaggie08
Triple D, TX
Member since Dec 2010
1408 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:22 pm to
So in a year where the SECN only existed for 5 months, AND includes heavy start up costs, the Big 12's big dogs are around what the SEC is? Pretty impressive
This post was edited on 5/29/15 at 1:24 pm
Posted by Don Johnson
Member since Dec 2010
520 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:26 pm to
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Part of Alabama and Kentucky's deal is considered Tier III and adds about 10 million per year to each school that each school keeps for itself.

You sure about that? I thought all tier 3 rights were now owned by SECN?

What does UK and UA have that they can still sell?
Posted by Irons Puppet
Birmingham
Member since Jun 2009
25901 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:27 pm to
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Welcome to the SEC. If all schools didn't get the same, I promise A&M wouldn't like the outcome. Bama, however, would love it. 8 of Alabama's games were the highest rated game of that week. Ratings = audience. Spots are sold on a cost per point (rating point) basis. Higher ratings = higher ad sales. Higher ad sales = more money for SEC TV deals.


Watch what you ask for. Missouri, A&M, UF and UGA bring in more veiwers than any of the other schools from other States.
Posted by cjared036
Houston, tx
Member since Dec 2009
9569 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:33 pm to
you dumb

when Aggie was a member, the Big 12 had an uneven disbursement based on which teams were on national TV more.

which is very similar to the argument posed earlier.

Now please get the frick out if you don't like everyone getting an equal share. rising tide raises all ships. That equal distribution is the benchmark of the strength of our conference.

look at the College Softball World series for an example why this equal distribution is a GOOD THING. Wait til Omaha for another example. Or the big influx of basketball coaching talent this offseason.

quit being an arrogant Texas douche and get with the SEC program.
Posted by secuniversity
Member since May 2015
5681 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:36 pm to
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This SEC number includes tier 3. Tier 3 has never been included in the revenue distribution before as each schools negotiated its own. Most schools made $5-10 million off their tier 3 deals. Now that is all included in the SECN. 

The Big 12 figure does not include Tier 3. Once those schools factor their tier 3 revenue in, Texas, OU, KU and probably a few others absolutely matched the SEC's $31 million figure.



Except these are partial year numbers for The SEC Network also minus start up costs that include buying out each schools' existing tier 3 games.

But schools in the SEC still have Tier 3 deals in addition to SEC deal.

Alabama has one of the richest. They get the $31 million from the SEC plus $16 million in their Tier 3 deal.

Other SEC schools have similar deals. Just not as big as Alabama's.

LINK

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The University of Alabama is set to sign one of the nation’s most lucrative multimedia rights deals with Learfield Sports worth at least $150 million to $160 million over 10 years.
The extension of a long-term relationship between the Crimson Tide and Learfield will now run through June 30, 2024.

The new financial terms of $15 million to $16 million a year double Alabama’s guarantee previously and put the Tide among the top three schools in multimedia rights revenue behind Texas and Notre Dame.

Alabama decided to keep its contract with Learfield virtually the same, except for the increase in the annual guarantee.The only significant difference is that Learfield will not have rights to Alabama’s third-tier football and basketball games, which now are controlled by the SEC Network.

One of the reasons the deal is so valuable compared to other schools is because Learfield controls several rights that are not typically included in multimedia agreements. Those rights include concessions, pouring rights, isotonic beverage, seat rentals and merchandise, which combined can account for 25 percent to 30 percent of the revenue from the property.

Learfield’s other rights include traditional multimedia inventory like radio, corporate sponsorship, hospitality, print, signage and other advertising.
Posted by p_bubel
San Antonio
Member since Jan 2014
463 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:44 pm to
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Not all schools should get the same amount.


Get bent.
Posted by Cheese Grits
Wherever I lay my hat is my home
Member since Apr 2012
54617 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 1:48 pm to
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You sure about that?


Yes, I am positive. Much of what Host started and became IMG College is what they just resold their Tier III for 210 Million to a firm on the west coast. What do you think has helped finance all that new construction in Lexington? It was the same firm Alabama just inked their deal with. Since the LHN deal is 15 million (11 to Texas and 4 to IMG) these two SEC deals are some of the biggest in D1. If you look back at CLC numbers over the past 5 years, UK was usually in the Top 5 to Top 10. Since they are no longer CLC they are no longer ranked but with UK's success across many sports now it seems probable their market penetration has at least maintained or possibly grown.

Unlike the debt others like the Vols took on, UK has been very conservative when it come to debt for new and upgraded sports venues, hence the new deal to bring in the new money to pay for all the new construction. Once Commonwealth is finished look for an announcement for a new 30 - 40 million dollar baseball stadium. All this is not tied to the SECN and is separate money from the newest media deals.
Posted by Restomod
Member since Mar 2012
13493 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 2:01 pm to
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Not all schools should get the same amount.



Then carry your Aggy arse back to to the B12
Posted by notsince98
KC, MO
Member since Oct 2012
17954 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 2:03 pm to
This SEC number includes tier 3. Tier 3 has never been included in the revenue distribution before as each schools negotiated its own. Most schools made $5-10 million off their tier 3 deals. Now that is all included in the SECN.

The Big 12 figure does not include Tier 3. Once those schools factor their tier 3 revenue in, Texas, OU, KU and probably a few others absolutely matched the SEC's $31 million figure.


Try again. I know Mizzou for one gets about $6M/yr for additional 3rd tier rights not owned by the SEC.
Posted by gthog61
Irving, TX
Member since Nov 2009
71001 posts
Posted on 5/29/15 at 2:15 pm to
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What's even more terrifying for other conferences has to be that this is the year that startup costs for the SEC network were taken from disbursals. The SEC is far and away the Joneses now and there's little any other conference can do to compete.


true but at some point don't you run out of shite to spend money on?
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