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Posted on 5/29/15 at 2:30 pm to TheRookbird
Time to look at limiting how much the league office gets; why do they need $31M +?
Posted on 5/29/15 at 2:31 pm to texasaggie08
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I'd be fine with each school getting paid based on our respective state's TV households.
You might be disappointed; I don't think they count mobile homes.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 2:38 pm to PanhandleDawg
Since I live in NW Arkansas I can honestly say that the tier 3 stuff is fairly active here for the Hogs. I expect all the SEC schools are getting a little extra from that above and beyond the SEC payouts.
Bottom line, we're making it snow in the nudie bar of college sports.
Bottom line, we're making it snow in the nudie bar of college sports.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 3:08 pm to texag7
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Not all schools should get the same amount.
Terrible.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 3:08 pm to PanhandleDawg
Obviously Texas has more mobile homes per capita than Mississippi, so yes, you are right 
This post was edited on 5/29/15 at 3:09 pm
Posted on 5/29/15 at 3:41 pm to cardboardboxer
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but your understanding of the subject is downright ignorant
Incorrect. I live in this subject. It is literally how I make my living.
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Ad sales are a small FRACTION of the TV money coming in, your understanding of college football economics is straight out of the 90's.
Ad sales are zero of the TV money coming in to the SEC. They represent the money going to the networks, which is part of the P&L equation they use to determine what they are willing to pay the SEC for rights to air games.
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You can't even say the ratings drive the revenue in any significant way
Ratings are the only thing that drives CBS's revenue. 1 rating point equals 1% of the universe in a given demo (ex: a 5 rating with M25-54 means that 5% of Men 25-54 years of age were watching that program). Ads are sold on a cost per point basis. If you sell, for example, a spot at a $50,000 cost per point, then you are talking about $250,000 to run a 30 second spot in an SEC game (again, as an example).
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the Tier 1 deal for the SEC (aka the CBS deal) is FAR FAR FAR below market value and that is where all of the SEC's highest rated games are
It's where all the highest rated games are because CBS gets first pick in all but 2 weeks of the season. This means it usually features the week's best matchup, which is why its ratings are high, driving dollars to CBS that they evaluate when determining what to pay for broadcast rights.
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The SEC takes less money than it could make on its best games for the exposure of being alone on CBS.
no. it maximizes what CBS is willing to pay every time. ESPN is in 90%+ of HHs. the "exposure of being on CBS" isn't exponentially greater than the "exposure" of ESPN.
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It makes up that money lost in the SEC Network.
it makes MORE money on SEC Network subscribers, but not lost money.
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In two years each SEC team will make twice your average ACC team, and that is because of the new economic model.
Agree.
You have some understanding of what you are talking about, but not absolute and full understanding. Nor do I as I am not in the negotiations with the SEC and their media partners. That said, I assure you my understanding on this is far from "ignorant".
Posted on 5/29/15 at 3:43 pm to Cheese Grits
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Yes, I am positive. Much of what Host started and became IMG College is what they just resold their Tier III for 210 Million to a firm on the west coast. What do you think has helped finance all that new construction in Lexington? It was the same firm Alabama just inked their deal with. Since the LHN deal is 15 million (11 to Texas and 4 to IMG) these two SEC deals are some of the biggest in D1. If you look back at CLC numbers over the past 5 years, UK was usually in the Top 5 to Top 10. Since they are no longer CLC they are no longer ranked but with UK's success across many sports now it seems probable their market penetration has at least maintained or possibly grown.
Nobody is questioning whether athletic departments bring in other sources of revenue. Obviously they do.
This is about the conference TV deals. And I'm pretty sure no SEC schools sell their TV rights outside of CBS, ESPN and SECN like we all could before.
For example, UK's deal that LINKyou speak of:
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Moores' JMI Sports has agreed to pay $210 million total, including a $29.4 million signing bonus, to own the radio rights for Kentucky football, men's and women's basketball and baseball games. The deal also allows JMI to sell and profit from the school's stadium and arena signage, future naming rights, in-game promotions and coaches' endorsements, among other things. The school, for example, will pay men's basketball coach John Calipari $4.5 million for his endorsement rights this upcoming season.
The terms represent a 74 percent average annual increase from the Wildcats' current deal with ING, which will expire in April 2015. Unlike the current deal, this deal does not include television rights, mainly because of the founding of the SEC Network, which is owned by ESPN.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 3:44 pm to notsince98
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Try again. I know Mizzou for one gets about $6M/yr for additional 3rd tier rights not owned by the SEC.
Not for TV.
Posted on 5/29/15 at 4:16 pm to Don Johnson
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Don Johnson
I think the issue is arising as the commingling of Tier III and TV as one in the same. Tier I and Tier II are all about TV but Tier III is the collective for a host of revenue streams that happen to include TV but are not exclusive to TV. Does this make more sense to you?
Tier I and you are discussing TV exclusively
Tier II and you are discussing TV exclusively
Their III and you may be discussing TV and you may be discussing something else.
It seems as people migrate from TV to cell phones this makes Tier III more confusing and may do the same for Tier I and Tier II. When the current deals wind down in about a decade and the merger of TV and phones is more defined it would not surprise me if the schools and conferences became the sole owner of their content and the BTN and SECN become obsolete.
Just look at how the cycle works
Schools provide the content
Cable and others provide the consumers
Networks are just middlemen and an added cost that can be reduced or eliminated
Posted on 5/29/15 at 4:34 pm to pvilleguru
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**Breaking News: Saban gets $30 million raise.
that's funny shite.
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