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Seahawks' Tom Cable: Spread systems do a huge disservice to offensive players

Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:34 am
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:34 am
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Tom Cable says college offenses hurting fundamentals


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“Unfortunately, I think we’re doing a huge disservice to offensive football players — other than a receiver — that come out of these spread systems,” Cable continued. “The runners aren’t as good. They aren’t taught how to run. The blockers aren’t as good. The quarterbacks aren’t as good. They don’t know how to read coverage and throw progressions. They have no idea.


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“I’m not wanting to offend anybody, but college football, offensively, has just gotten to be really, really bad fundamentally,” Cable said. “You look at it and say, ‘Well I can go get a guy who runs a little faster, maybe jumps a little higher, that’s got an aggressive streak in him. At least I can see that on defense and just start with him. I’m going to have to retrain an offensive lineman that’s coming out of college right now anyway.”


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I think this was posted yesterday, but it had a shitty thread title, and I wanted to make sure everyone had the opportunity to read it without having to read a tweet and click on a link.
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:34 am to
Yea! Take that Aubies!
Posted by Eric Nies Grind Time
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:35 am to
Gus is ruining the NFL.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:37 am to
There's already been a thread on this but I'll go ahead and say that the spread is here and it is here to stay. It helps even the playing field and makes it easier on coaches to move the football up and down the field....which leads to more wins which leads to job security.

Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:38 am to
An old white dude, with a lucrative job, that is resisting change. Color me shocked. What he really is saying is black people shouldn't be QB's. That is a slow white man's job.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 8:39 am
Posted by Aubie Spr96
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:39 am to
I wish this guy would write an insightful article about how zone defenses in basketball hurt college players transitioning to the NBA.
Posted by RollTide1987
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:40 am to
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An old white dude, with a lucrative job, that is resisting change.


I think he just wants a QB who knows how to read a defense. The best QBs in the NFL played in pro-style offenses when they were in college. Offenses that required them to make the correct reads and proper adjustments without much help from the sidelines.

Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:41 am to
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An old white dude, with a lucrative job, that is resisting change.


I don't think that's what he's saying. He's saying when those college players get into the NFL, they are very poor at fundamentals and have a severe lack of football knowledge because of how simple spread systems in college are.

Offensive linemen not knowing how to block doesn't have anything to do with Tom Cable resisting change.
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:41 am to
I don't get why Cable's opinion is so controversial.
Posted by AUCE05
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:41 am to
Lol wut? Tom Brady and Payton Manning do well in a spread. They can read a D.
Posted by Patton
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:41 am to
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There's already been a thread on this but I'll go ahead and say that the spread is here and it is here to stay. It helps even the playing field and makes it easier on coaches to move the football up and down the field....which leads to more wins which leads to job security.


Boooo
Posted by Irons Puppet
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:42 am to
One mans opinion who hates running the Offense that Pete Carroll has forced him to coach. Most OL Coaches hate the HUNH and the Spread, because it forces them to teach something different than what they were taught. Same gripes we heard from the "old school" coaches, when Bill Walsh was running his Offense. Change or get out of the way.
Posted by Henry Jones Jr
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:42 am to
That's certainly his opinion. If they were a disservice then how come they put up the most stats and the most points? You'd think defenses could stop a person who is "not taught how to run"
Posted by Old Sarge
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:42 am to
I liked the other thread better
Posted by Herman Frisco
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:42 am to
This is just one more reason to fire Gus...
Posted by Tuscaloosa
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:43 am to
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Lol wut? Tom Brady and Payton Manning do well in a spread. They can read a D.


I think it's pretty clear which types of "spread" offenses he's talking about. If a player you draft is coming from a spread scheme that is up-tempo and zone read based, you're fricked.
Posted by Prettyboy Floyd
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:43 am to
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Seahawks' Tom Cable: Spread systems do a huge disservice to offensive players by Tuscaloosa



The college game is hampering the pro game for sure. 90 pct of the QBs that are being drafted are coming out of one read systems and spread systems and when they are asked to learn how to play QB at the NFL level they strugle because all they have ever done in college is make one read and take off running. The NFL sees these gaudy stats and think they can make good qbs out of guys like Geno Smith. Yeah Right
Posted by Crowknowsbest
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:43 am to
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Lol wut? Tom Brady and Payton Manning do well in a spread. They can read a D.

Both were trained in pro-style. Not sure why you picked them
Posted by HailToTheChiz
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:44 am to
Sounds like coaches in the pros don't want to coach anymore?
Posted by LSU GrandDad
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 8:44 am to
I agree with Cable. but the spread is the ONLY way some teams can compete. the scheme falls short most of the time in big games against better defenses because of it's fundamental weakness's. AND many, if not most of the younger set idolize tons of offense. it must remind them of their video games. they seem to embrace changing football to a fast pace, gain lots of yards and then let the other team do the same type thing.

it is what it is. personally, I love smash in mouth power football.
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