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re: Seahawks' Tom Cable: Spread systems do a huge disservice to offensive players
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:23 am to Tuscaloosa
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:23 am to Tuscaloosa
Cable is either full of crap or the best offensive line coach in the history of the game. I tend to believe it's the former. The Seahawks chose Mizzou's Justin Britt 2 years ago in the 2nd round and he has been their starting RT for both Super Bowl teams, FROM DAY 1!! He must have been a little bit prepared before he got there.
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Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:23 am to Crowknowsbest
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Key there is modified version of it. They're still making pro-style reads. Lining up in the shotgun with 4 WRs doesn't limit the reads in an NFL offense.
Agree that it is a modified version, but the title of op is Spread Systems do a huge disservice.
Spread or modified elements are pervasive now as you said.
As far as you said about the reads, the article I cited indicates the successful qb's with only a single read have to be ready to run with the ball quickly. I am not sure how this would work out in the NFL --- maybe the kid from Oregon would be a good indicator.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:24 am to Tuscaloosa
I can agree with his sentiment. But the thing is, the NFL doesn't pay one red cent for this supposed bad training these kids are getting so he can go suck on a tailpipe...
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:25 am to Tuscaloosa
That's an opinion. With the way the game is played now, that's not the case for a lot of people
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:26 am to higgs_boson
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As far as you said about the reads, the article I cited indicates the successful qb's with only a single read have to be ready to run with the ball quickly. I am not sure how this would work out in the NFL --- maybe the kid from Oregon would be a good indicator.
It'll take awhile imo. RG3 has bombed pretty hard. If they throw Mariota into the fire early it could get ugly.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:29 am to Tuscaloosa
Isn't the goal to win the game? Or is the goal now to have the best fundamentals? The spread offense will go away when the spread offense stops winning games.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:30 am to RollTide1987
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I think he just wants a QB who knows how to read a defense.
Teach them. He's a coach right? He wants college teams to do his job for him? Mike Shula isn't complaining about his spread QB
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:34 am to AUCE05
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An old white dude, with a lucrative job, that is resisting change. Color me shocked. What he really is saying is black people shouldn't be QB's. That is a slow white man's job.
Well you're an idiot (regardless of pigmentation).
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:35 am to HailToTheChiz
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Sounds like coaches in the pros don't want to coach anymore?
Pros shouldn't have to be taught fundamentals.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 9:38 am
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:35 am to AUCE05
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An old white dude, with a lucrative job, that is resisting change. Color me shocked. What he really is saying is black people shouldn't be QB's.
Race bait much? Jeez.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:36 am to augrad00
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Isn't the goal to win the game? Or is the goal now to have the best fundamentals?
Good fundamentals wins you more football games.
The New England Patriots were hardly the most talented team in the NFL last year. However they were the best at playing as a team, remained smart, and remembered the fundamentals that were taught to them by their coaches.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:37 am to augrad00
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Teach them. He's a coach right? He wants college teams to do his job for him?
I don't think it's unreasonable to expect someone you're paying $5,000,000/year to be able know how to read a defense when they get to the league.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:37 am to Goldrush25
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Pros shouldn't have to coach fundamentals.
You're right...they should draft smarter.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:38 am to Tuscaloosa
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I don't think it's unreasonable to expect someone you're paying $5,000,000/year to be able know how to read a defense when they get to the league.
I think it's unreasonable to pay someone 5 million a year that you suspect can't do it (or at least hasn't).
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 9:39 am
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:41 am to piggidyphish
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I think it's unreasonable to pay someone 5 million a year that you suspect can't do it (or at least hasn't) then complain about it.
Tom Cable isn't responsible for drafting anyone, but if you take a look at Seattle's recent draft selections, you won't find many players that came out of those systems.
It probably makes developing a draft board a bit more difficult when you suspect the "best player" doesn't know how to read a defense.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 9:42 am
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:43 am to Tuscaloosa
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Tom Cable isn't responsible for drafting anyone,
If the problem is the players, then don't draft the players. Simple enough...responsible or not, if that's the problem, then there's the solution.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:47 am to piggidyphish
Can't wait until Bill Belichick starts using these.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:48 am to piggidyphish
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You're right...they should draft smarter
Well what Cable is alluding to is that the problem is widespread, therefore there simply aren't enough strong fundamentally sound players to go around anymore.
That burden to improve the stock falls on the amateur ranks.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 9:51 am
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:51 am to Tuscaloosa
Explain Justin Britt example from above then please.
Posted on 5/14/15 at 9:54 am to Goldrush25
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Well what Cable is alluding to is that the problem is widespread, therefore there simply aren't enough strong fundamentally sound players to go around anymore.
Georgia guys said a lot of their players run the offense and have the fundamentals needed. I assume KC is rejecting great trade offers daily to keep aaron murray?
The other option is to adjust...or coach it.
This post was edited on 5/14/15 at 9:56 am
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